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post #1 of 8 Old 01-26-2019, 01:47 AM Thread Starter
Five Lined Dumpy Family 2019

This is the thread for the Five Lined Dumpy Family my White's Tree Frogs and Southeastern Five Lined Skinks. We will talk about their enclosures, diets and any news regarding them.

About the Dumpy Family:

Three White's Tree Frogs
Max (Female)
Spurgeon and Jeremiah (Males)
Fin (Male Betta Fish)

About the Skink Dynasty:

Pharaoh (Male Skink)
Amsi (Female Skink)
Ruby (Offspring)
Florence (Male Squirrel Tree Frog)
Large Virginia Land Snails
Large North American Millipedes

Both enclosures are 67 Gallon Exo Terra Terrariums

The Dumpy Family live in the 24x18x36
The Skink Dynasty live in the 36x18x24

The Dumpy Family is scaped after Asia and Australia Hybrid Forest Paludarium

The Skink Dynasty is scaped after the Southeastern United States. Carolina's to Northern Florida.

Both enclosures are together for me because they are side by side literally and are my only exotic animals. So I decided to include them together.

The leaders of the Five Lined Dumpy Family are Max and Pharaoh. It will be interesting to see how big Max gets. Both animals control the ecosystems respectively. Pharaoh can accept or reject an organism and kill or eat it. He chooses which is how the Squirrel Tree Frog, Snails and Millipedes are in the Skink Dynasty. If Pharaoh wanted to he would kill or eat everything else. Everything essentially works for the Skinks. The Snails eat decaying plant matter as do the Millipedes but the Millipedes eat poop of the lizards. So they clean up the enclosure. The Squirrel Tree Frog is night shift security because he consumes any small insects that could potentially bother the Skinks while they sleep. Max controls her environment because she eats as much as she wants. She is dominant and will pester the males if they take her food. She's not always aggressive to them. I find Spurgeon sitting with her late at night. Max has eaten fish before and attempted to hunt Fin once but could not get him as Fin was too deep and in the center of the water so Max could not get any footing. She ate Minnows before and assuming she got a good shot she would attempt the Betta Fish. Fin is the king of the waters. While Max may be a threat it's not usual for her and Fin to interact. They have actually lived together almost a year and only become aware of each other once. That's not bad. Fin controls the water because any fish introduced he fought and it was immediately removed. This is a little bit on the leaders of the Five Lined Dumpy Family.

We will be displaying Kingdoms which will show daily life for these animals and how the leaders maintain their control of their ecosystems.

To see the Skink Dynasty being built check this out!

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post #2 of 8 Old 01-27-2019, 12:56 AM Thread Starter
The Skink Dynasty was updated today!

So I got some really good news all around. Amsi came out and blessed us with her presence. She looks pregnant and I think that could be really cool if she is. She is puffy and she allowed me to record her when she was basking. I caught the first ever time Florence the Squirrel Tree Frog was on the floor of the enclosure. I never saw him on the ground. He was hunting something which was pretty cool to see. I caught in daylight the one snail eating the Pachysandra. I was laughing but sad too. I hope he doesn't eat it all. I'll have to feed him more so he stops.

I added a small under tank heater to the side of the enclosure where the Skinks bask. This is so they can get even warmer and bask faster. I wanted this to help the lizards to be warmer. I also made a small rock pile so the Skinks can feel more comfortable. They hangout in rock and wood piles. The insects also enjoy this because they feel more comfortable with more hiding spots. I added a small piece of corkbark to the enclosure to help the Skinks feel more at home. I will have one side with wood and one side with rocks. The Millipede and Snails went to the wood and were investigating it. The Millipede burrowed underneath and the Snails climbed it.

I have decided a few major things for the Skink Dynasty. So there will be a few more inverts and an unlikely resident. I will be looking into adding more Millipedes, hopefully more Snails, Leopard Slugs and possibly Darkling Beetles. I will also add earthworms to the soil so the Skinks can hunt them when they burrow. The Skinks actually are a burrowing species so they hunt earthworms in the wild. I'm excited to add a few more inverts. There is one more to add and I don't have to find it I already have it. Under circumstances of tragedy I will add the baby Cope's Gray Tree Frogs to this setup. I will explain more why in the Gray Tree Frogs thread but these frogs are actually babies from Charlotte so they are southern. I was not planning on breeding the Gray Tree Frogs but because their home is gone and frogs are dying I will attempt to collect them this spring and breed them to release them in another area.

The addition of the Cope's Gray Tree Frogs will make for the first time I ever had mixed tree frogs. The Cope's is also from the region of the Southeastern Five Lined Skinks and Squirrel Tree Frog. Charlotte is where the Gray's are from and Myrtle Beach is where the Squirrel Tree Frog is from. The temperatures are very close. So this will work out. Maybe it's better for the little babies two of them that have deformed legs to be in this setup. The Skinks aren't going to harm them and the Squirrel Tree Frog is too small to compete for food with them. The babies should be okay in here as opposed to battling my two studs Christian and Bane in an all Gray Tree Frogs enclosure. Plus the Mosquito Fish might have picked at their limbs. This will give even more life to the Skink Dynasty and will mean there are 3 tree frog species in the Five Lined Dumpy Family!

This is truly the year of the Tree Frogs!

What do you think about the addition of the baby Cope's Gray Tree Frogs?

Are you interested in seeing the additional inverts?

Are you excited to see the beginning of the Five Lined Dumpy Family on YouTube?

Side Note:
I am going to create an Instagram for the Five Lined Dumpy Family! The Instagram will feature them but you will see appearances by the Native Amphibians. The Facebook Page will feature the Native Amphibians. I want to use the Instagram for just the exotic animals because I want to make something just for them because they are as important to me as anything else. I cannot stress how important they are to the channel and the happiness I get from caring for them. This is something exclusive for them and I'm excited to give more depth to the Five Lined Dumpy Family! I'll let you know when I create the Instagram!

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post #3 of 8 Old 02-02-2019, 02:11 AM Thread Starter
The Five Lined Dumpy Family 2019

Both enclosures are doing well and I wanted to take a moment to say what these enclosures are considered. Both the Dumpy Family and Skink Dynasty are a Forest. The Skink Dynasty is a Southern United States Subtropical Forest. This enclosure will have the most biodiversity containing many inverts and of course the Skinks. Some frogs will also live here.

I was able to record many good clips from the Skink Dynasty. Many inhabitants were filmed. I am waiting to get one more good shot of Pharaoh the male Skink. He's been very skittish lately even more then usually. There are many new faces to come to the Skink Dynasty. The Instagram for the exotic animals is up! Checkout the about section on the YouTube Channel to follow the Five Lined Dumpy Family!

The Dumpy Family is a Tropical Forest. Not to be confused with a Rain Forest because there is no misting system. It's humid and a warmer climate. This is home to just the Dumpy Tree Frogs and Fin the Betta Fish. I was able to film the Dumpy Family like never before. In the next video we will explore how special Pharaoh and Max are to their ecosystems. They will face a familiar foe that has been seen on the channel.

Kingdoms is still in recording for the first episode but this is the main series for the Five Lined Dumpy Family.

What would be a cool invert to add to the Skink Dynasty?

Do you have an amphibian or reptile among others that is the dominant?

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post #4 of 8 Old 02-10-2019, 01:43 AM Thread Starter
An update before the rise of the Five Lined Dumpy Family...

That's exactly what's going on with the Skinks and White's Tree Frogs. I have the video in the finishing touches which may be by the end of the week as a release but maybe earlier.

This update will show the animals and enclosures unlike any other video they were in. I got a rare shot of Pharaoh the male skink ambushing a cricket. This has been a rare occurrence so I think it will be a big part of the video. It will drive home the point of how he is the Dynasty for the Skink Dynasty. I got the Squirrel Tree Frog in much better quality clips so you will get to see how beautiful he is. He hasn't eaten in front of me yet either but I believe he will. The Cope's Gray babies are in the video. They are going to make an appearance when they grow more. I captured Amsi coming out as well. I've noticed the Skinks and Squirrel Tree Frog coming out more so they will be captured in more clips to make for even better display. There is some sad news on the way but I'll save it for the video. A new addition is also on the way. Some Millipedes and Giant Isopods. I will have an unboxing video of them to come. These are going to be in the second episode of Kingdoms not the episode coming this week.

The Dumpy Family was captured in some very interesting shots because I actually went into the terrarium to video them. They allowed me to film them living their lives. Max shows her dominance and how just like Pharaoh she is the leader. Max shows her alertness and tameness. She also shows that the other frogs are her family but also she eats first. You will be pleased to see how the Forest has come along. I am beginning to get that dense closeness a forest would have. After the video was shot I added some more plants so you'll have to keep up with the series to see the updates to both enclosures.

If you haven't seen or don't follow the Gray Tree Frogs thread let me fill you in on what's going on. The PA Woods has been divided into factions (two enclosures being presented together for more interest and education).

The upcoming faction of my Gray Tree Frogs (Gray Army) and eventually Toads (and maybe something else) will rival the Five Lined Dumpy Family. While each enclosure is unique the the specific animals I believe bringing these two upcoming enclosures together for documenting will be very interesting and will feel much more fluent. You will get a small idea of what this will look like when Kingdoms premieres this week. So the Five Lined Dumpy Family will have to step it up being the first faction of the PA Woods Community. Soon the native species faction will be rising up to challenge them. I hope to bring competition between these two factions in an attempt to excite followers and viewers and encourage them to support their favorite faction. This will force me to try to constantly out do myself for better content which is good because it give me more motivation to get better.

I have not yet named publicly the name of the upcoming faction. I will be waiting for a little bit longer until the completion of the Gray Army's enclosure is completed. The hope is this new faction will not have to hibernate to breed. They will be both in their own respective Biopod. The hope is that I can turn the temperature down to cause a cooling season for the Tree Frogs and Toads. Then we can have an active and all year running rivalry between the factions.

The 125 gallon is still the center of the PA Woods Community, but it has to go through a massive makeover and the animals are being treated for nematodes. So while they get treated and the tank gets redone the factions will rule. The 125 gallon is not in a faction as it will be the only aquarium I'll own. It's in its own category. The 125 gallon will be inactive for many months as the animals hibernate which is really when we will rely on these two factions for content.

Kingdoms is the feature series for the Five Lined Dumpy Family. the other faction and the 125 gallon will have a feature series as well. Kingdoms will be the kickoff of a new direction of the channel and everything in the PA Woods Community. This is the transition into increasing quality content and better more organized discussion on the forums. The Five Lined Dumpy Family is going to really impress and surprise the PA Woods Community.

Sorry for a long post mostly of what the factions will consist of and their direction. I just wanted to let you know what is coming!

What addition to the Skink Dynasty are you most interested in seeing? Cope's Gray Babies, Millipedes, Giant Isopods, Female Squirrel Tree Frog

Do you want to see a feeding video of the babies in the upcoming unboxing video this week?

What are you excited to see in the first Kingdoms episode?
Pharaoh and Max

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post #5 of 8 Old 02-17-2019, 01:27 AM Thread Starter
The first episode of Kingdoms...

So I actually made the first episodes of the series and posted it but the video was messed up from my laptop so I had to take it down. When I was going to edit the video it crashed and I lost the video completely. So I was able to get a new laptop which might come tomorrow actually. I'm not sure if I said this in the post for the Five Lined Dumpy Family but the new laptop will give me the ability to post videos at the highest quality that my camera is able to. My editor and camera can shoot 1080 but my old laptop could only handle 720. So you'll see Kingdoms in the best quality of all the series I've ever made. You'll see the animals in a high quality as well.

There are many new inhabitants that are not able to go into the Skink Dynasty but are being nursed into adults. This may hinder the biodiversity of the ecosystem currently but the assistance is on the way. With the first video needing to be created from scratch again it might make the episode better. I can add some more interesting clips to keep you more engaged I feel in the story. There is a little drama in Kingdoms as we have death,life and mystery all going into the first episode.

The Dumpy Family is doing well and rolling as usual. The baby Cope's Gray Tree Frogs are growing. The one baby that's the healthiest is getting also big enough for small crickets. It might be the beginning of summer when they join the Skink Dynasty. The Bumblebee Millipedes and Canyon Isopods are being nursed to grow so the Skinks don't eat them or attempt to.

If your wondering we still have a female Squirrel Tree Frog and some more inverts to be introduced to the Skink Dynasty.

I'm waiting for the new laptop to begin the episode so it might be early March for the episode. I might have another trailer and the unboxing of the inverts coming before the episode of Kingdoms!

Would you prefer to see an episode around 15 minutes or around 20 minutes?

What is your opinion on adding invasive species such as the Canyon Isopods? Should this be something we discuss in Kingdoms?

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post #6 of 8 Old 02-24-2019, 01:14 AM Thread Starter
A good week for the Five Lined Dumpy Family...

Two trailers have been put up and the Five Lined Dumpy Family brought us to 100 subscribers! Let's hope their series can bring in more as we move closer to Kingdoms!

There is a vote happening and it's almost over! It's to decide how long this series will be between 15 minutes and 20 minutes. The voting is very close I can't believe how it's one away from a tie! I'll update you all when the voting is over as to how long I have for Kingdoms!

I've been feeding the Skink Dynasty more and letting it dry out more and all the inhabitants are more active. The babies are growing and one baby is getting big it may be a female. The Bumblebee Millipedes are doing well. I'm not sure how long they will have to stay out of the Skink Dynasty. They need to grow more first. I'm looking forward to showing the lives of these creatures in this setup and also the Dumpy Family.

I see Spurgeon is becoming more bold now that I've had him close to a year. He is out more and stays with Max usually at night. Jeremiah is shy still. He's eating though. He's still doing well. Fin eats all day. He has it good because I throw food in for him whenever he comes out. He's a smart fish.

I'm happy that the Five Lined Dumpy Family is completed mostly. Some devices, plants and for the Skink Dynasty some animals are to be added but it's mostly complete. I am very happy to be starting the year talking about these guys. Finally they get a chance to show us their importance and fascinating behavior. I am very interested in creating the other faction the Utopians to face the Five Lined Dumpy Family. Maybe we should have that as a vote later on. Would you want to see the animals of the Utopia Faction even in their smaller quarantine enclosures? The Gray Army will be back in the 30 gallon.

I'm excited to just have holiday specials and to see the two sides faceoff.

The Kingdoms episode is coming after the 100 subscribers special.

Should I do a live video sometime soon of the Five Lined Dumpy Family? Would you tune in?

Should I give another update on the babies and Millipedes sometime soon?

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post #7 of 8 Old 03-03-2019, 01:37 AM Thread Starter
The votes are in!

So we had a good turnout for voting! It was a close vote. 1 vote could have tied it up. We were voting on how long Kingdoms was going to be per episode. 15 minutes won by 1 vote. This tells me though with that close of a vote I will try to be around 15-17 minutes so the people who voted for 20 see I am going to honor their vote! Kingdoms is going to come after the 100 Subscribers Special.

A small update on Max the matriarch. She may have a fungus infection from too high of humidity. I since have made changes to the enclosure. I'm going to take Max to the vet just to be sure and to make sure the leader of the Dumpy Family is healthy for her time to shine! She's still hungry and active and alert. I'm not sure if she's sick but I'm going to make sure we know for sure.

There is going to be a change for the Millipedes. Joining the Bumblebee Millipedes will be the Smoky Oak Millipedes because they are bigger and more colorful. So get ready in the coming episodes to see a lot of Millipedes!

I am going to search for Leopard Slugs and maybe more snails. I won't add too many just 2-3 more so there is a small colony. I also found another invert we will attempt to add but it's a secret. The inverts in this setup will be incredible.

The baby Cope's Gray Tree Frogs are growing and the one baby who has no deformity might join the Skink Dynasty without it's kin. I believe it's a female from size but it's bigger and more dominant then the others. It might beat out the Millipedes, Isopods and other babies! It would be interesting to see how Florence the Squirrel Tree Frog will act not being the only frog. Remember there may be 5 total frogs in here with 3 baby Cope's and a female Squirrel Tree Frog joining Florence. The Skink Dynasty is the most biodiverse enclosure I've ever created!

Spurgeon has grown and is out more now. He looks good and you will see more of him in Kingdoms. Jeremiah is still shy but I will try to get him more into the second episode.

The Skinks are great and actually Amsi is out every day now. She never came out like this before so it's nice and she's much more tolerant of people now. You'll see a lot of her and her relationship with Pharaoh in the first episode.

I am very excited to begin the process of creating a great series for you all in the PA Woods Community. Stay tuned for Kingdoms coming soon! Thanks for voting!

Let me know what you think of the voting and the update!

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post #8 of 8 Old 03-05-2019, 12:45 AM Thread Starter
I have decided to move to try and help people on frog and lizard forums but I appreciate all the help that you all have given me here and the people who took the time to read my updates. I still want you to be a part of my projects! Please still follow me on YouTube and Facebook to see what's going on with the PA Woods Community!

Thank you all for your time!

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