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1. Size of tank? 30gal

2. Water parameters
a. Ammonia? 0-.25
b. Nitrite? 0
c. Nitrate? 5ppm
d. pH, KH and GH? ph: 8.3
e. Test kit? API master test kit

3. Temperature? 80

4. FW (fresh water) or BW (brackish)? FW

5. How long the aquarium has been set up? 1+year

6. What fish do you have? How many are in your tank? How big are they? How long have you had them?
6 Neon tetras, slowly dieing away
1 molly
8 lemon tetra
3 celebes rainbowfish
1 amano shrimp
2 nerite snail
Countless cherry shrimp

7. Were the fish placed under quarantine period (minus the first batch from the point wherein the tank is ready to accommodate the inhabitants)?
Celebes put in 4 week qurantine

8. a. Any live plants? Fake plants? All live planted
b. Sand, gravel, barebottom? dirt and sand
c. Rocks, woods, fancy decors? Any hollow decors? red lava rock

9. a. Filtration? carbon
b. Heater? eheim jager

10. a. Lighting schedule? What lights are used? aquarium lights, on timer, 10hrs
b. Any sunlight exposure? How long? only indirect sunlight, except maybe an hour around sunset

11. a. Water change schedule? Weekly
b. Volume of water changed?
5 (this month 10gal) change
c. Well water, tap water, RO water? tap
d. Water conditioner used? tetra aquasafe
e. Frequency of gravel/sand (if any) vacuumed? not vac'd

12. Foods? Spectrum
How often are they fed? Once daily
Plus occasional treats: freezedried or frozen bloodworms and brine shrimp

13. a. Any abnormal signs/symptoms? No, swimming and eating just fine
b. Appearance of poop? normal
c. Appearance of gills? normal except the newer celebes, red and swollen (much better than when I bought her though)

14. a. Have you treated your fish ahead of diagnosis? Yes and no
b. What meds were used? Kanaplex, salt, upped temp

Ordered the celebes and should have waited on them, they were sketchy as heck looking (didn't travel well) 2/4 died in quarantine (w/in 24 hrs). Added survivors to the main tank with 2 other celebes and rest of the tank after 4 weeks. Within 3 days, one of the new celebes showed fungus on gill flap, white, soft, fuzzy. Changed water, added sea salt, upped temp, treated tank with kanaplex, and spot treated fish with bio bandage (methylene blue plus other stuff). that fish died, but looked more from the stress of handling and not eating.

Zoom ahead 2 weeks, everyone looked fine, turned filter back on, looked at 3 celebes today, and lo and behold, white fuzz, one has it on chin, another on pectoral fin, and the newer celebes shows nothing. I moved them to hospital tank I set up 2 weeks ago (10gal, live filter media [filter was used as secondary in main tank for a while], heated, fake plants and plant cuttings for temporary cover). The tank must not be fully cycled, they're faded and not doing well.

I'm going to watch them for another hour or so, see if they'll adapt to the hosptank then spot treat with the bio bandage. if they're adapting well I'll leave them there otherwise they'll go back in the main tank. Tomorrow I will go out and get more meds at lfs. I have API fungus cure I may try if they take to the hosptank

My main question is, what could it be?
It's only affected the celebes, and the two originals were healthy, vibrant, and strong prior to these new fishes. They still swim and eat. The rest of the fish are fine with zero signs of anything. Some of the neons are far more unhealthy than the original celebes (i think they have ntd as slowly as they're wasting away.. like.. once a month i euthanize one if not less) and I would expect them to be ill before the original celebes if it's a very contagious disease.

celebes fish show fungus, no one else does. treated once, came back.

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Celebes are right at the top of my favorite fish list.However they are not fish that can just be added to a tank and expected to thrive.Zero ammonia is paramount , .25 ammonia and 0 nitrite in a cycled tank really doesn't seem right to me.There is no need for me to get into specifics about their care,it's available on numerous websites more clearly then I could hope to write.Kept correctly they are as pretty a fish as I've ever seen.I absolutely adore these fish but they are high maintenance.

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I'm going to blame the more than 0 ammonia on having overfed while the filter was off and dosing kanaplex. I'm keeping an eye on it though and it's lessening.

And yes, they are beautiful fish, that was why I wanted more. And then this happened
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, life... you're killin' me
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