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i have a 15 gallon now and since im moving to a new place, i want to upgrade to a 30. the only fish im keeping are the 5 bronze cories. i want the following stocking scheme. let me know any suggestions.

- 1 angelfish
- 5 kuhli loaches
- 5 bronze cories
- 8 lemon tetras
- 2 bolivian rams
 

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Not sure about the angelfish, since the 30 gallon is only 16 or so inches tall and the angelfish is a very tall fish. It's usually recommended to have a tank with a minimum height of 18 inches for an angelfish.

Were the two rams going to be a pair? If so, you might run into problems when/if they breed, as they'll get quite aggressive and a tank that size is a little lacking in areas for the other fish to hide. If they're the same sex, they might not get along with one another.

I think in a 30 gallon you would be alright if you switched the angel out for a similar fish that doesn't get quite as tall, like a keyhole cichlid or festivum. Both are peaceful cichlids. You could probably also get away with swapping out one of the rams for another type of dwarf cichlid in order to avoid the problems you'd face by having two rams. An apistogramma of some sort or a kribensis cichlid would work.
 

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People probably aren't giving you an answer because they aren't familiar with the fish you want to stock. Many people visit this site and read as much as they can to learn, but aren't necessarily very experienced. Also, you'll notice that many people who view this site have not yet registered, so they can't easily make a quick response.

I would agree with batman that the two bolivian rams wouldn't work in the 30G, especially with an angel. All 3 are territorial fish and they will fight.

I disagree that swapping out for another dwarf cichlid would work. While it would avoid the problem of two rams pairing up and breeding (thereby making them very territorial), most apistos and kribs are more territorial than rams.

Also, you've got a very crowded bottom- the rams, kuhlis & cories are all bottom dwellers. Why not look at some top dwellers like hatchetfish?
 

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so the idea your saying is the following
angel fish
cories
kuhlis
lemons
and hatchets or hatchets instead of lemons.

also would black skirt tetras be an option as they would match the angel fish.
 

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I don't keep angels, so I'm not one to say, but I would worry about the angel outgrowing a 30G as they get quite tall. Hopefully someone else can answer that better.

Black skirts wouldn't work with angels as they are quite nippy and would shred your angel's fins. Lemon tetras or any other non-nippy tetra will work just fine though.
 

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neither are aggressive and should be fine with each other. just make sure the kuhlis have lots of hiding places. its funny but the more hiding places you have the more youll see them. my 29 gal now has 3 caves 3 peices of driftwood and a few other ornaments and some low grasses dwarf hair and micro swords and 4 out of 5 of my loaches hardly hide now.

i dont have any experience with the other fish youve got listed there. but angels get big. ive heard even if they are only 6-8 inches long they can be like 10 or 12 inches tall.
 

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Yeah, the kuhlis and the cories will be a-ok. Although personally I'd up it to 6 of each, cuz the bigger the group, the happier they are.

Also, what sort of substrate are you planning? Cories and kuhlis do best on sand, so they don't hurt the barbs on their noses.
 

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I agree with mavis. In a 30 gallon tank you might be a little short on space having a dozen bottom feeders. Maybe pick one, either the cories or the loaches, and going with 6-8 of them.
 

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Im not the most experienced and will often be asking for advice on the forum but as far as angels go; I love them & and will read everything I find on them. I bought my first two angels when they were about 1 1/2 inches tall about a month apart. the first one is aprox 5 inches now (3 months later) and the second one is 3 1/2 - 4 inches now (2 months later). With a proper diet these guys will grow fast and can be agreesive at times. My larger angel actually will attack my blood parrots who are all bigger them him. If you are only buying one angel you might be able to get away with it but when it gets full grown, in my opinion it might be a liitle sad to keep such an awesome fish who can get up to 10 inches in a small tank like that. Also as far as angels go either buy 1 or 3+. 2 is a bad # beacause when the dominant angels has established himself/herself, it will focus in on thw other angel when ever it gets angry. By buying 3 or more it allows the agression to be spread thin over the group. For Angels I think a 60g tank is the minimum you want.

As for a schooling fish look into congo tetras. They get pretty big compared to most tetras, neons and other small schooling fish reaching sizes from what I've heard up to 4- 4 1/2 inches. I have 6 in my tank and dominant male is a little over 3 inches. Just be carefull of your water as mentioned before they won't do well in most cichlid conditions...

On a side note, have you thought about Gouramis??? VERY nice fish. Example : Pearl gouramis are good with danios, rasboras, loaches.. These guys would make a really nice looking tank.
 
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