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Just a note to remind everyone that tap water flux is very common this time of year with all of the rain - and the ferts that people like to dump in their gardens. . . at least where I live! Always a good idea to keep an eye on the parameters in your tap water - especially in the springtime!
 

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good idea, however the ferts that are put into gardens usually dont runoff anywhere but are held in the soil. usually the onlytime you see anyrun off is when they are spilled on the sidewalk, applied to a slope or not cleaned the overspill after a application. still very valid suggestion ^^
Do you not get rain in Ohio?

Fertilized lawns + rain = runoff

Gardens aren't the issue, it's the lawns. Of course outlying farming areas are huge culprits for getting ferts into the aquifer. Shallow wells, city river water collection... it all adds up. I'm glad that I am on a deep well and our water doesn't change much.

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We live in the country but have a pump house for our area that is treate, this year we still have snow we had tons in February. Llast year at this time we were in t shirts, had the craziest winters lately
 

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Do you not get rain in Ohio?

Fertilized lawns + rain = runoff

Gardens aren't the issue, it's the lawns. Of course outlying farming areas are huge culprits for getting ferts into the aquifer. Shallow wells, city river water collection... it all adds up. I'm glad that I am on a deep well and our water doesn't change much.

Jeff.
ill take your srcasim as a joke, i came from the green industry (lawn ferting and weed control etc) the only way you get runoff is when products are applied to a slope or not cleaned off the walks/drives or off target application to hard surfaces. the soil retains the nutrients that are applied to it.
 

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Do you not get rain in Ohio?

Fertilized lawns + rain = runoff

Gardens aren't the issue, it's the lawns. Of course outlying farming areas are huge culprits for getting ferts into the aquifer. Shallow wells, city river water collection... it all adds up. I'm glad that I am on a deep well and our water doesn't change much.

Jeff.

Lawns and industrial farming are major contributors but gardens still can be a source of water pollution as nitrogen readily leaches through soils (including clay) into the water table. In my area, an urban setting, phosphorous pollution is the most likely to be introduced into the waterways by overspraying on to concrete. The clay soils that make up this area will readily bind fertilizer phosphorous preventing it from leaching into the waterways.
 

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*shrugs* All I know is that in the spring I will often start seeing nitrates in my water that weren't there before. After periods of particularly heavy rainfall, I've even caught ammonia in my tap . . . generally my tap water is perfection, with no contaminates that I can detect. . . Caught me off-guard last year - not gonna happen again! Can't hurt to do an extra test or three on your tap water - just to keep the babies safe, neh?
 

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The advice was well given (thanks Chesherca:welldone:), and should be considered by most of us. It depends where you live obviously, as the source water may or may not be affected by various things. And water can change seasonally.

Here in Vancouver our water comes from three huge lake reservoirs up in the Coast Mountains. When it rains very heavy as it does in the Spring and Autumn particularly, we can see more sediment in the water. This in itself is not harmful. But in some areas of the continent, the water authority might have different sources and switch from one to another at such times, and parameters can change accordingly. Or various substances might be added at such times to deal with issues.

Another possible issue can be increased treatment for bacteria. Additional chlorine, adding chloramine, etc., is sometimes used sporadically. Always using a good water conditioner protects against this, as published notices may not been seen in time.

Unless you have a track record over many years to go by, one shouldn't assume the water coming out of the tap will always be the same.

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ill take your srcasim as a joke, i came from the green industry (lawn ferting and weed control etc) the only way you get runoff is when products are applied to a slope or not cleaned off the walks/drives or off target application to hard surfaces. the soil retains the nutrients that are applied to it.
Actually fertilizers and pesticides most certainly do run off and leach into water systems. I have 60-80ppm Nitrates in my well water the result of a 95 acre farmers field across the road that gets ample amounts of organic and chemical ferts.
 

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I tested my tap water and it has 1ppm of ammonia in it :cry:. What can I actually do? Perform smalled water changes? Add ammonia remover? I found a bottle of prime sitting around, if anyone is familiar with it can they tell me if it is the standard coverts to ammonium method? Thanks!
 

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I tested my tap water and it has 1ppm of ammonia in it :cry:. What can I actually do? Perform smalled water changes? Add ammonia remover? I found a bottle of prime sitting around, if anyone is familiar with it can they tell me if it is the standard coverts to ammonium method? Thanks!
This is not so bad. With live plants the ammonia/ammonium will get taken up fairly easily. And even the bacteria will take it up. The only real issue is the initial influx at the water change. And for this, use a conditioner that detoxifies ammonia. Prime does, though you can use other conditioners too provided they say they deal with ammonia. This detoxifies the ammonia in the tap water, changing it to ammonium which is harmless, and the plants/bacteria will take up this additional ammonium by the time the conditioner becomes ineffective (24-48 hours usually).

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Chiming in to say that Spring or Not it is always possible for the source water to flux if you rely on tap water. Treatment plants that treat water have limitations in what they can treat/filter out, and can have issues with maintaining water quality. This can happen especially in areas that are wet/warm/really hot. You can get blooms within the water treatment plant themselves that lead to your tap water being different than what you are used to.

Recently we've had warmer weather, our trees are blooming sooner, and the weather is becoming quite wet. Lots of people are out working on their yards, and I'm seeing those (insert words that describe my hatred of this practice) chem lawn people out dosing lawns to make them unnaturally green.

Did a water change recently on one of my tanks, and my fish completely freaked out. I had loaches having seizures, shrimp going crazy, and my rasbora became quite stressed. Adding more prime seemed to fix the problem well enough. So now I have to up my Prime until I can test my source water and see what is going on.
 

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Springtime 'tis the season for algal blooms in surface reservoirs (caused by seasonal overturn of lake nutrients and, perhaps, aggravated by over-applied lawn products used by non-professionals?).
Water companies using surface water, at least those in the southeastern US, often add "extra" chlorine/chloramines this time of year to compensate for the additional algae load. This may, or may not be, announced. My local water system announces it over the radio (a single, solitary announcement on one day cautioning those sensitive to chlorine and those with aquaria - I'm lucky I even caught the announcement the one time I did).

Water systems may super-chlorinate at any time of the year, but typically do so after heavy rains, during algae blooms, and/or when a pipe repair has taken place.
 

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Urg. I always wondered why my tank had nitrates of 10ppm all the time, finally had a d'oh! moment and checked my tap. 10ppm nitrate -____-

Should I be doing anything special to 'fix' the problem? I've heard people using products to help lower nitrates but I'm leery about adding anything like that to my tank.
 

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Urg. I always wondered why my tank had nitrates of 10ppm all the time, finally had a d'oh! moment and checked my tap. 10ppm nitrate -____-

Should I be doing anything special to 'fix' the problem? I've heard people using products to help lower nitrates but I'm leery about adding anything like that to my tank.
You are good. 10 is reasonable. We want to stay 20 and under. If you see anything above 20 then do a water change or 2.
 

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good reminder.

thanks

mayby some year I'll do it.

(pssst I don't do water changes so I don't worry. LOL)

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Urg. I always wondered why my tank had nitrates of 10ppm all the time, finally had a d'oh! moment and checked my tap. 10ppm nitrate -____-

Should I be doing anything special to 'fix' the problem? I've heard people using products to help lower nitrates but I'm leery about adding anything like that to my tank.

FWIW, IME, IMHO and so on. :lol:

The following statement is absolutely true.

The only reason you have measurable nitrates (or ammonia, or nitrites, or phosphates, or anything) is because your tank is not reducing those as they are being added or created.

Whether or not that results in a course of action is a completely seperate question.

In my case I just use plant life (Fw plants, marine algae) to achieve unmeasureable nitrates.

But that's just me and my.


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In my case I just use plant life (Fw plants, marine algae) to achieve unmeasureable nitrates.

But that's just me and my.


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It works. I still change water each week (most weeks) but even after a three week stretch the nitrates did not cross 5ppm. I'm not certain which plants are responsible as I have 16 varieties now... but that's just details. Of course a lot of this has to do with the plants taking up the ammonia in the first place so it does not go through the bacterial nitrification process and the little bit that does does not produce enough nitrates to be concerned about.

I do expect that, at some point, I will see zero nitrates without changing water.. but it's not my goal, just an interesting side bar.

Jeff.
 
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