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ohhhhh nice! perception is hard to tell with pictures; how big are they. Your blushing koi looks like my Jezabelle.
 

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Thanks, the koi range from a little bigger than quarter size on the body, but not quite at the half dollar stage. The blushing smokey is getting close to nickle size. I expect that I should see a pair forming up probably around the end of the year. I was using a macro lens on these pictures.
 

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mine are too busy worrying about what they are gonna eat to be interested in pairing..... I have 3 and they are the about the size of the bottom of a coke can. maybe a bit smaller. I think they have dropped their breeding tubes, but anytime i try to spy on em they see me and just look at me. Cant get them from the sides to sex em.
 

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mine are too busy worrying about what they are gonna eat to be interested in pairing..... I have 3 and they are the about the size of the bottom of a coke can. maybe a bit smaller. I think they have dropped their breeding tubes, but anytime i try to spy on em they see me and just look at me. Cant get them from the sides to sex em.
All of my angels that I have kept have always had a healthy appetite. I use to have one female that would start waggling as soon as she saw me enter the room. For sexing I had to wait until I was able to catch them in the act. Give them time, with 3 you might get a pair.
 

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yeah I don't really care about breeding them anyway. Just would like to know what i got lol. It really doesn't matter much to me what sex they are except pure curiosity.
 

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i realised (again) why every one loves angels - thanks for those lovely pics :)
 

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Beautiful! I can't wait to get some angels. :) I hope I can find some as pretty as those!
 

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Thank you for the compliments. It is angels that really got me into keeping fish and seriously learning about the hobby. Even after taking a year away from the freshwater side of the hobby while I tried my hand at saltwater, when I came back everything about the tank has been centered around these guys.

The angel in the first picture unfortunatly I found dead yesterday before I left for work. Thinking it may have not adjusted well to the stress of changing tanks. It had been acting healthy the night before and even eating when I fed them. The store I got them from does have a 7 day guarentee, so I was able to replace it. It was one of my favorites out of the group and I was looking forward to seeing it grow out.
 

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Nooo!!! :( That one was my favorite too. :/
 

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Thank you for the compliments. It is angels that really got me into keeping fish and seriously learning about the hobby. Even after taking a year away from the freshwater side of the hobby while I tried my hand at saltwater, when I came back everything about the tank has been centered around these guys.

The angel in the first picture unfortunatly I found dead yesterday before I left for work. Thinking it may have not adjusted well to the stress of changing tanks. It had been acting healthy the night before and even eating when I fed them. The store I got them from does have a 7 day guarentee, so I was able to replace it. It was one of my favorites out of the group and I was looking forward to seeing it grow out.
ah barb... prolly as with my amazon, only the strong survive lol. My 3 angels bullied their 2 angel tank mates to death. Jezabelle was number 1 suspect
 

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ah barb... prolly as with my amazon, only the strong survive lol. My 3 angels bullied their 2 angel tank mates to death. Jezabelle was number 1 suspect

Agree with the strong surviving, as I told them at the store my parameters are pretty much as perfect as you can get. 0 on ammonia and nitrites and nitrates have been at a steady 5ppm for the past 3 months. These guys were locally bred, so pH and hardness is probably the same unless the breeder is using ro water or on a well. If on a well I would suspect that it should be fairly close to the city water. Might test my parents well water just for the heck of it to see how correct my thoughts are on that. But pretty much every thing has been doing well. The only other death was on a candycane tetra a couple of months back. Again in that situation I suspect stress of a new tank. I figure if we get through this next week alright that all should be in the clear.
 

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I cant explain the deaths of my 2 angels any other way. There were 5 together. All the same size. Built a hiearchy and 2 were buillied to death. No sign of disease. Water params perfect, the other 30+- fish still perfect
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I cant explain the deaths of my 2 angels any other way. There were 5 together. All the same size. Built a hiearchy and 2 were buillied to death. No sign of disease. Water params perfect, the other 30+- fish still perfect
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Angels can be funny that way, some are very mellow while others everyone better stayclear especially as they start to mature. My past experience with angels I had a group that was very mellow, even after two of them paired up and started spawning in the tank. The most they ever did was chase the other fish away from their eggs. Once the eggs were gone everyone would hang out together. I know other people though that have had to put a pair in their own tank because they were more aggressive.
 

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Angels can be funny that way, some are very mellow while others everyone better stayclear especially as they start to mature. My past experience with angels I had a group that was very mellow, even after two of them paired up and started spawning in the tank. The most they ever did was chase the other fish away from their eggs. Once the eggs were gone everyone would hang out together. I know other people though that have had to put a pair in their own tank because they were more aggressive.
I think i have a group of 3 female that killed the 2 males. I am actually atleast 96% sure
 

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Barb, they're BEAUTIFUL!!! I have to agree with Aussie - your shots make me remember why everyone swoons for angelfish. Fantastic shots, too - tank photography is SO HARD! Every good pic is a huge accomplishment (for me, anyway!) Great work. . .

Sorry to hear about the loss. *cries* he was a real beauty. . .

. . .glad that the shop was able to give you a new one. . . time for another photo shoot? ;)
 

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Barb, they're BEAUTIFUL!!! I have to agree with Aussie - your shots make me remember why everyone swoons for angelfish. Fantastic shots, too - tank photography is SO HARD! Every good pic is a huge accomplishment (for me, anyway!) Great work. . .

Sorry to hear about the loss. *cries* he was a real beauty. . .

. . .glad that the shop was able to give you a new one. . . time for another photo shoot? ;)
Thank you. I agree tank photography is definitly a challenge. At least we have digital available instead of just film, otherwise I wouldn't be able to afford to improve my skills in this aspect of photography. Going to see about taking some more pictures of the tank and angels this weekend.


Unfortunatly the angel that I got as a replacement passed a couple of days ago. Clamped fins and hiding in the back along with showing a disinterest in food. Thinking that it might be more than just not handling the stress of a new tank well. So for now will stay with the 3 angels that are in the tank and observe everyone. At the end of the summer hoping to get some more from a breeder in Florida and that will give me time to set up one of the empty tanks as a quarentine tank.
 
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