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Yup all these named tanks are simple plain ole playsand from Lowes :-D washed outside 1-2 times and in the tank it went.
As for the plant question...The pictures on most tanks speak for themselves I'd wanna say lol the 2nd new shrimp farm was set up as you see in one of the 1st pic's in Dec the hair-grass has FULLY filled in since and all other plants get weekly to by-weekly trimming due to size, so there's def no growth issue.
Any & All tanks from me you see listed use no ferts, no co2 nadda; just fish, water and good low lights :-D the only "extra" I have in SOME of the sand tanks are Malaysian trumpet snails.


And what is the name of the front small bushy plants in 2nd New Shrimp Farm aquarium?
Along the front of the tank about half way into the tank left to right is ALL hairgrass, did you mean that?
In the far right back is Pennywort (round leaves) and Stargrass (like grass on a stem) and about in the rear center is Java Ferns.
Hope this helps.

One side note: I had found Hairgrass quite difficult to grow in medium-fine gravel but in sand it really kicks I'm super happy with it. I can gladly shoot you a updated pic of the tank now 5 month into growth and post it here?
 

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I can gladly shoot you a updated pic of the tank now 5 month into growth and post it here?
Yeah please do, I will be getting some hairgrass too now, that looks like a cool plant. :p

But I am a bit confused :roll:

No matter how you set up your tank (sand from river, playsand or gravel) plants need a proper amount of all nutrition's either you have some serious good water quality with which you supply this to your plants OR you will need to add fertilizer to the plants; this then depends on the plants you have either root tablets for root feeders such as Swords or Crypts or a simple liquid fert for stem plants. Improper balance of light AND nutrition's will result in poor plant growth so if either one of these 2 factors is out of balance it won't matter what substrate you choose plants will not grow.
yet you say

Any & All tanks from me you see listed use no ferts, no co2 nadda; just fish, water and good low lights :grin: the only "extra" I have in SOME of the sand tanks are Malaysian trumpet snails.

What would I have to do to get a good plant growth in the playsand? :thumbsup:

PS. Can you get seeds for hairgrass or how do you plant it over a wide areas? Because I was thinking of covering the whole bottom with it.
 

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I don't want to actually growth the plants, but rather to keep them alive, I want a natural bright and healthy plants in my tank.
 

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Will get pic's as soon as the lights are on and my camera agrees to work with me again.

If you want to ensure your plants will thrive will: for any plants feeding from the water (eg hairgrass, pennwort, stem plants in general) buy a comprehensive liquid fert such as Flourish https://www.petsolutions.com/Default.aspx?ItemID=10105130
If you have plants like a Crypt or Sword buy root feeder tablets such as offered by API

For lights I use T8 daylights from GE on ALL my tanks (can be found at Lowes or Walmart); eg on the 55g I have a 1x30w daylight over it @ 6500 kelvin.

The combo of "right" light and plant food will make for great plant growth!

I haven't heard of hairgrass seed. I just bought 2 pots at sweetaquatics and separated them out in smaller pieces, planted them and let it grow in like lawn.
 

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Sorry for the delay, had some troubles here....

Here's the tank you were interested in 1st pic is set up end of Dec with the thinned out Hairgrass and then yesterday's picture about 4 months into the growing now....hope this helps?
 

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Thanks Angel, that does help! Now I know what the hairgrssl will eventually look, like.

I went to get some playsand yesterday, but I've discovered that it looks dark yellow when dry, and brown not yellow when wet, strange. Maybe it's the lighting which will add colour to it?
 

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All I ever found was the white-gray like you see in the tank above and then the light brown sand. But YES the spectrum of your light definitely influences its looks; all my tanks are stocked with GE Daylights @ 6500K as I found this to be the best for plant growth....so just check and see what color (kelvin) you have on this tank. If its a Kelvin lower then 5,000K I'd recommend replacing anyway because of the plants, ideally you want as close to natural daylight for them as possible and these wanna-be aquarium bulbs sold in pet stores are often ~ 2,500K and that will not make your plants thrive (plus your fish colors will look "off" as well and not natural). So just check what you have there....
 

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I have Arcadia FF15 lamp, the specifications says it's a 7,500K lamp, that's a good news.
I was thinking of buying some java moss for the wood log and some ball moss so fare. The 2nd one looks really cool, have you had any experience with them, will it grow well in a playsand?
Thanks for your advice!
 

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The 7500k is more on the higher end which often gives a more purple look to fish/ plants that I pers don't like. But as far as 18" t8 bulbs are concerned that's standard sizes and I got like 6 of them here I just but them at Lowes by GE called "Daylight" and they're 6500k and work extremely well on plants I can assure you that. To me its pointless to buy these bulbs at the "petstore" rather then the homestore or walmart when its the SAME thing just 3-4x the price at the petsore when at Lowes, Homedepot, Walmart any brand like GE, Bright Effects, Phillips sell's daylight bulbs of all sizes @ 6500k as well for a fraction of the cost.
 

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Hey guys Im new to the forum :) I wanted to make a quick reply to the above post. You can carefully disinfect almost anything with boiling water, heat , or the drip method using household bleach. When you use the drip method make sure you rinse rinse rinse the item/items several times. With larger stone or items I run them thru my dishwasher without adding soap or anything else to the cycle= just let it run thru to completion.If you want to clean smaller gravel
then you can place it in a pillowcase and once again run it thru the dishwasher on the upper rack. Ive been doing this for years without incident
 

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Sorry if you're already done, but I found something that would look AWESOME.

Do a seach locally for "3M Colorquartz" I believe the type S is more like sand. The particles are 1-2mm in size, and basically sand coated with ceramic. (completely inert, I've read about entire forums that switched to this as a substrate) I plan on getting it as a cover for my 50G.

It's useful because:
1. it's cheap- $20-$25 for 50 Ib's
2. Lots of colors available... You can create some really nice blends- it's available in 16 colors.
A blend of 1 part buff, 1 part white, 1 part brown, and 2 parts tan would look nice.

Keep in mind also that fish show their colors better over a darker substrate most of the time. The soil in the amazon, for example, is a bright red, but it's covered with layers of silt and plant debris so it's really more of a darkish-brown/black.
I plan on getting mostly black, with a touch of red and brown if I can find a small qty of them. If not, I'll use some small pebbles on top of the black sand to give it depth (imo)
 

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Just be aware that you might introduce any number of toxins or biological problems. This applies to any introduced item from nature, be it wood, rock or sand/gravel. You probably have no way of kowing what substances may have come into contact with the material at some point in the past and have been absorbed, nor can you know what pathogens there may be. While boiling and/or drying may eliminate some of these, it may not eliminate all toxins if they are present. It is always a risk, just so you recognize that.
I have to agree with this post. I had a piece of driftwood that I collected from a local lake (which is unpolluted because it is a drinking supply) that I boiled for hours before introducing it to my tank. I still ended up with a leech in there...yuck! Not only that, but there must have been something bad in the wood since it seemed to adversely affect my fish. I would not try it again, nor will I ever use anything collected from outside in my aquariums in the future. There are so many variables that can go wrong in a tank that it is just not worth it to me to have my decorations be one of them. Sorry if I'm a bit of a downer; I just like to play it safe.
 
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