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I set up my 55 gallon after 12+ years and added some fish.
Looking for thoughts on the occupants.

1 Electric blue Jack Dempsey 2 inch
1 red tail shark 3 inch
1 pike cichlid 2.75 inch
1 snypsilum 3 inch
1 albino frog small - 1 inch
1 panama red bristle nose pleco 1 inch.

any thoughts?

The shark and pike really go at it.

Cheers!
 

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Welcome to the forum :wave:

Am to just jump right in here, in a nutshell the tank is way too small for those fish.

You have some very aggressive fish there in the JD, Pike and the shark.

Depending on what species of Pike cichlid, they can grow up to 14".

To get any sort of calm in that tank, some of those fish will simply have to be rehoused.
 

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Welcome to the forum :wave:

Am to just jump right in here, in a nutshell the tank is way too small for those fish.

You have some very aggressive fish there in the JD, Pike and the shark.

Depending on what species of Pike cichlid, they can grow up to 14".

To get any sort of calm in that tank, some of those fish will simply have to be rehoused.
What size tank would be suitable for those three fish?
 

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The synspilum is going to get 17" so a minimum 125g.
The others would be maximum size around 6-8: depending on what species of Pike cichlid, Pike cichlids are often labelled wrong in stores and sold as a smaller variant when they are actually the big ones getting to 12-".
The fact that you have aggressive species, I would be looking at 75g or 90g. This will allow enough space for each fish to claim a territory of its own.

JD do well in a tank with a sandy or fine gravel bottom as they like to dig.
Red tail sharks require driftwood and vegetation something the JD will munch on.

As the fish are quite small though, with careful monitoring of both the tank (for aggression) and water parameters, you might be able to keep them in a 55g. Be prepared though that if aggression becomes too much, you might have to remove fish, either to a separate tank or back to the store if they will take them.
 

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The synspilum is going to get 17" so a minimum 125g.
The others would be maximum size around 6-8: depending on what species of Pike cichlid, Pike cichlids are often labelled wrong in stores and sold as a smaller variant when they are actually the big ones getting to 12-".
The fact that you have aggressive species, I would be looking at 75g or 90g. This will allow enough space for each fish to claim a territory of its own.

JD do well in a tank with a sandy or fine gravel bottom as they like to dig.
Red tail sharks require driftwood and vegetation something the JD will munch on.

As the fish are quite small though, with careful monitoring of both the tank (for aggression) and water parameters, you might be able to keep them in a 55g. Be prepared though that if aggression becomes too much, you might have to remove fish, either to a separate tank or back to the store if they will take them.
I think the Pike and the Red Tail shark are going back to the store tomorrow - the EBJD and the Snypsilum will be alone with 3 small schooling fish yet to be purchased.

I have had serious thoughts of a 125 gallon tank.

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I set up my 55 gallon after 12+ years and added some fish.
Looking for thoughts on the occupants.

1 Electric blue Jack Dempsey 2 inch
1 red tail shark 3 inch
1 pike cichlid 2.75 inch
1 snypsilum 3 inch
1 albino frog small - 1 inch
1 panama red bristle nose pleco 1 inch.

any thoughts?

The shark and pike really go at it.

Cheers!

After 13 years I think you and your occupants are just fine. :lol:
 

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The EBJD is fine in a 55g the Snypsilum is not. They average at least 12-14" and it needs more room than a 55g can provide.

Not to mention they are very peaceful compared to the EBJD so there might be aggression issues.
 

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I set up my 55 gallon after 12+ years and added some fish.
Looking for thoughts on the occupants.

1 Electric blue Jack Dempsey 2 inch
1 red tail shark 3 inch
1 pike cichlid 2.75 inch
1 snypsilum 3 inch
1 albino frog small - 1 inch
1 panama red bristle nose pleco 1 inch.

any thoughts?

The shark and pike really go at it.

Cheers!
Some dempseys are more calm than others. Ifyou provide LOTS of caves and blind spots you might pull it off. Get rid ot the shark
 

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Got rid of the shark and bought a 180 gallon tank. Being delivered next weekend.
My Frog vanished into thin air - Crazy
Got some Congo Tetras
Cant wait to set up the new digs.
Congrats on the new tank! You'll be very happy with it as bigger tanks are MUCH easier o keep up given the right equipment.
Your frog no doubt was eaten by any one of those fish. Sounds like it was an ADF and they have terrible eyesight and easily preyed upon by any fish bigger then it. They only seem to work in very peaceful tanks with lots of cover or bet off by themselves.
 

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Congrats on the new tank! You'll be very happy with it as bigger tanks are MUCH easier o keep up given the right equipment.
Your frog no doubt was eaten by any one of those fish. Sounds like it was an ADF and they have terrible eyesight and easily preyed upon by any fish bigger then it. They only seem to work in very peaceful tanks with lots of cover or bet off by themselves.
you are probably right but none of the fish ever bothered him at all. The EBJD is too small and the red head wont even eat a guppy. I am puzzled a bit
Agent 13 - I might have lots of questions over the coming weeks so I could use your mentoring.
 

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you are probably right but none of the fish ever bothered him at all. The EBJD is too small and the red head wont even eat a guppy. I am puzzled a bit
Agent 13 - I might have lots of questions over the coming weeks so I could use your mentoring.
No problem! I love the fun of setting up tanks. I cant exactly do it everyday unless i plan to live in a tank so on here will have to do ;-) . In fact today is the first day ive bought new fish in months!
 

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No problem! I love the fun of setting up tanks. I cant exactly do it everyday unless i plan to live in a tank so on here will have to do ;-) . In fact today is the first day ive bought new fish in months!
I just got back from the pet store and was planning on just buying some food for the fish but then I saw they had some Electric Pink Jack Dempseys. Never seen em before and they were very nice little fish so I bought one - This means my cichlid count for the 180 is complete at 3. He/She will need to grow a bit it goes into the big tank though. The 55 gallon will be its home for a while.
 
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