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So it's not really a python but it works the same and we built it. I was wondering if i need to use tap water conditioner every water change? My 29 gallon also currently has the ich. Because in the buckets I just used the appropriate amount of conditioner needed for the contents. Now I can't? Do I need to dose the entire tank? Or just what I put in there? Or not at all? Because that would use a lot of products..


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I use Seachem Prime and they recommend dosing the entire tank. I feel like you could probably get away with dosing what you're putting in, but it's better to be safe than sorry (I know people who hardly even condition the water...). But, I cannot answer for other water conditioners; it may be different. I have had no problems dosing the entire tank and then adding tap water.
 

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I dose it before I add the tap water, and I have not had any issues doing it that way. I typically prefer mixing the water with declorinator in a bucket and then adding it, since I don't want to expose the fish at all to the chlorine/chloramines, but sometimes I am lazy or don't have time and adding it directly works fine. Lots of people add it directly with the water conditioner and report no problems.
 

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I dose my tanks for the volume of the tank and then refill with my Python. No problem.
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I use Prime by Seachem for conditioning my tap water and it's one ml per 10 gallons.
The bottle I have was $22 and treats 5000 gallons.
That's $0.0044 per gallon or 26 cents per water change with a 60 gallon tank.
If all you have is the 60 gallon tank and you were to dose exactly 6 ml per water change and do one change a week your bottle would last you 83 weeks.
What's the problem? :-D
 

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I use Prime by Seachem for conditioning my tap water and it's one ml per 10 gallons.
The bottle I have was $22 and treats 5000 gallons.
That's $0.0044 per gallon or 26 cents per water change with a 60 gallon tank.
If all you have is the 60 gallon tank and you were to dose exactly 6 ml per water change and do one change a week your bottle would last you 83 weeks.
What's the problem? :-D
Haha, I also have a 20 and a 30, but mine is top fin and is a ml per gallon!


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I use Prime by Seachem for conditioning my tap water and it's one ml per 10 gallons.
The bottle I have was $22 and treats 5000 gallons.
That's $0.0044 per gallon or 26 cents per water change with a 60 gallon tank.
Also where do you buy it? Online or at a LFS or at like petsmart?


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You wont find it cheaper than here. It would cost you a little more than a quarter (the same 26 cents) to do complete water changes on all 3 tanks. Assuming you dose for the whole tanks volume (not a necessity), that bottle will last you almost a year. $1 per month.

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This is really what people are doing?

So if you have a 200 gallon tank and you are doing a 10% water change of 20 gallons, you are dosing for the whole 200 gallons and not just 20 drops for the 20 gallons going back in?

This seems off to me.

I add the water directly to the tank and then put in the exact amount of drops/teaspoons based on the amount of the water change.
 

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No, I would absolutely not dose the whole tank for small water changes. I do 80% changes, when I do them, an so I dose the whole tank because it's easier. For a 50% change, I dose somewhere between the gallons changed and the total volume, so say 75%. For a small change (less than 50%) which I almost never do, I dose the volume I changed.

It's one thing to "overdose" a small tank, but when you have big tanks like us, dosing the whole tank when it's not necessary is a waste, even of it's just a few dollars.

I don't waste time with drops - a capful treats 50 gallons, which means a half a cap treats 25 gallons. I'm happy to just estimate. I'm not counting out 100 drops :)
 
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No, I would absolutely not dose the whole tank for small water changes. I do 80% changes, when I do them, an so I dose the whole tank because it's easier. For a 50% change, I dose somewhere between the gallons changed and the total volume, so say 75%. For a small change (less than 50%) which I almost never do, I dose the volume I changed.

It's one thing to "overdose" a small tank, but when you have big tanks like us, dosing the whole tank when it's not necessary is a waste, even of it's just a few dollars.

I don't waste time with drops - a capful treats 50 gallons, which means a half a cap treats 25 gallons. I'm happy to just estimate. I'm not counting out 100 drops :)
So contrary to what was previously said, only dose the amount changed? I do a 25%-30% because I heard that's good.


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So contrary to what was previously said, only dose the amount changed? I do a 25%-30% because I heard that's good.


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It doesn't matter if you dose the whole tank or just the water you've changed.

It shouldn't be a surprise that the direction tell you to use more than you need, since that leads to more sales. This is something to which common sense can be applied - if you change 10% of the water, why would you need to dose the 90% you've already dosed??
 

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I got mine on amazon for 11$ for the 500 mL bottle but I think right now it's priced at 16$. I buy a lot of things there so I usually reach the $35 free shipping thing (it was $25 a few months ago for free shipping).
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If you buy from amazon often I highly recommend getting the prime membership.
 

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Yes I did that for a while and wound up buying things I didn't need just to get the free shipping for the things I did need. However, it's nice to be able to buy one thing for $5 as soon as I need it and have it shipped 2 days for free.
 
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