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tophat665 said:
I lost 3 of my last 10 neons to NTD. They just have to be isloated IMMEDIATELY when you suspect they have it, and it won't spread. Not a big deal in a 99 cent schooling fish (sucks to be the fish, mind you).
I was not saying that if there is NTD, leave it alone. Of course, you have to remove the afflicted or suspected fish immediately. NTD rarely happens but if suspected, then isolation here it goes. NTD can happen but I wouldn't worry too much about it. Just get along with tank maintenance rather than trying to think about NTD which could destroy your pleasures of enjoying the hobby.
 

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NTD is specific to neon tetras, however... there are a few other diseases that are very similar and those will hit guppys, white clouds, and a few other species of fish. The symptoms are all similar, and the cause/effect is also similar.

As Blue said, it is highly contageous, and the only way to get rid of it is to euthanize the fish afflicted, and to do so as soon as possible. There is no cure or even treatment for NTD.
 

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Hi Dana.:wave:

What's your stocking plan so far?:mrgreen:

Hope everything goes well.:)
 

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Hi Blue! :D
Well I've still been having some trouble with a stocking plan. With so much info to go through, it gets overwhelming.
I was thinking of adding a pair of gouramis. Either thick lipped or kissing. Thick lipped I heard are among the best for community tanks, tending to be tolerant of a wide range of conditions and companions. The kissing I thought were pretty cool also, but don't know if they'd do well in my tank.

Bottom dwellers I haven't quite figured out yet. I don't want anything real small, and obviously not huge. I want them a decent size though. I guess also I'm trying to figure out if I could get coris and another bottom dweller(or more)?
I do like the neon or cardinal tetras, although I don't know if they are worth the risk of NTD. I understand if I keep up on other things, it sounds like a small chance.
Again, I'm going to bring up the red tailed black shark. Apparently it's not really a shark, grows to be around 5 inches and is generally good in a community tank. Does anybody have one of these, or can give me more info?
Okay, back to looking up more fish and seeing who goes with what!
I have another question regarding my current school of 6 danios. The one(which is the biggest) is going around, chasing every single other guy. It's as if he's claimed the entire tank somehow. It seems constant and literally, he will chase every single one, not just one or a few. I'm guessing it's not playful, but how would I know for sure? No ones tail fins seems harmed as of yet. No one is hiding or staying away, they all seem to swim all over, they just constantly get chased by the one bully. Is this pretty normal? Or , as always, is this something that goes against the general rules!
 

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hi
your Danio is top of the pecking order,and is letting the others know,
i had the same problem a few years back,i took the little
blighter back to the shop,and all was calm,the others got along
just fine.
I wouls advise you to stay away from the RTBS,
although i cannot speak from experiance(sp)
i don't think i have come across a fish keeper yet
that has not had a problem with them being agressive.
:)
 

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Can you have 1 or 2 small plecos with cories?
I would like something that spends most of the time bottom feeding or on the glass, and also some corys in my tank.

As far as bottom dwellers go:
As suggested previously, I've been interested in the bulldog pleco(max size is 5 inches), along with the pit bull pleco (max siz is 2.5 inches). I also like leopard cory, green laser cory, and sterbas cory. I am confused about the gold nugget pleco. It seems they gro to about 6inches, but I was under the inpression they got bigger. Would they do okay with other bottom dwellers or not because of their size or other reasons?

Does anyone have banded rummy nose tetra?


So here we go again:

see above for bottom dweller choices

school of 6-8 neon tetras (should it be the same number that are in the school of danios, or doesn't it matter?)

kuhlii loach

pair of gouramis (kissing vs thick lipped)

+/- rummy nose tetras (just a thought for right now)


As I said before, this is just a rough idea of what I would be interested in getting. Don't be too harsh :) :oops:
 

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Kissing guarmies grow quite big, also there kissing isnt sexual, its agressive. If you see them kissing, it means there fighting and you must separate them. I would rather you go with a dwarf guarmie (i have no idea how to spell guarmie)
 

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Okay I feel like an idiot now! :oops: I wish when I was looking into the kissing gouramis , it clearly stated that! Yikes. Ah well. Better to know before than after!
So what about the thick lipped ones? Know anything bad or what would be considered crucial info on them? I will look into dwarf gouramis also and see if anything strikes me.

How does the list look otherwise?
 

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Maybe someone else can answer my questions about them and the list:)

I looked into the dwarf gouramis.
I saw the neon blues, turquoise , and sunset honey varieties. All very attractive. I want males for sure!
 

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DanaJ said:
I do like the neon or cardinal tetras, although I don't know if they are worth the risk of NTD. I understand if I keep up on other things, it sounds like a small chance.
Cardinals would be your better choice if you don't like neons.:) Cardinals apparently are immune to NTD so have a go with this one.:)
Again, I'm going to bring up the red tailed black shark. Apparently it's not really a shark, grows to be around 5 inches and is generally good in a community tank. Does anybody have one of these, or can give me more info?
RTBS are pretty territorial and in a 29 gallons tank, it can easily harass other tankmates so best to leave it for a 55 gallons where there is more space for it to stake out territories.
Does anyone have banded rummy nose tetra?
I haven't heard of banded rummies. There are 3 species you can look into. Hard to explain the differences.:shake:
Petitella georgiae
Hemigrammus rhodostomus
Hemigrammus bleheri
 

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I had no idea that cardinals were immune to NTD.
I had thought neons would be better because they seem more hardy than the cardinals. From my understanding the cardinals are more sensitive? Maybe I got that mixed up!
I like both as far as colors go, so I still have time to decide:)
 

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Thanks for the link musho. Still looking at the other varieties. The reason I was deciding between the neon and cardinal tetras were because I've always found their colorings striking, and it seems like overall they both tend to be good beginner fish.
 

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hmm, from what ive read about them i think cardinals are more fragile than neons, but double check because im not positive. Also they are slower swimmers than danios. Possibly the danios will leave them alone but then again they might nip their fins (i dunno why but danios love nipping). If you have substantial hiding spots im almost positive they will be fine though, just giving you a heads up.

Seeing that you cant really chose between neons and cardinals, why dont you just find the cheaper one and get that?
 

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Well now I have more to think about. On the positive side: Cardinals apparently are immune to NTD. That is a big plus in my book. As I said earlier, I think the cardinals are more attractive also.
Down side: I heard neons were more hardy as opposed to the cadinals.
 

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I have heard from veteran fishkeepers that their neons keep dying compared to their past experiences. My father is also in disbelief as he used to keep neons before and they don't die unless they reach old age or if afflicted with diseases. Problem is their quality(more like genetics) is declining due to inbreeding and mass production.:shake:

Water quality also plays one of those factors responsible for the survival of the neons.

Edited to correct something.:crazy:
 

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well since ntd wont really kill your danios (hopefully) i think it will be fine to have neons. If you have good water quality, healthy diet, loving care, i think your fish wont have NTD let alone any sickness.
 
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