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hi all..

just wondering what is the best recommendation for algae control in a 55 gallon.I don't want a pleco cause they will out grow the tank.I was considering cherry shrimp but i have bolivian rams and they would prolly eat them.I have some algae fix that is made by aquarium pharmacudicals but i am not sure about using it or just seek some other form of algae control.Its not to bad at the moment just growing some on the gravel but i feel i should try to control it before it get out of hand.
 

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Bristlenose plecos only get 4-5 inches long. The albino ones are actually peachy in color and fun to watch.

Corydoras are another option.
 

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i did some searching online and the largest algae eating shrimp i could find is the Caridina japonica (amano shrimp). Does anybody have any experience with these shrimp ? I think i remember seeing some at a petsmart one time when i was there and from what i remember they were quite large enough not to be eating by the fish, at least not easily.They looked to be about 2.5 to 3 inches long from what i remember.I don't remember seeing any of the albino bristlenose plecos but i will look the next time i go to a pet store, if i could find one that could very well be the solution im looking for..
 

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amano shrimp typically one inch long, though adults do grow large in good conditions.
dont confuse with the glass shrimp! this will kill your fish easily!


you know prevention is better than cure, keep shrimp to tend your plants, but regular water changes- good light management and careful feeding will ensure you keep algae under control!
 

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Bristlenose plecos only get 4-5 inches long. The albino ones are actually peachy in color and fun to watch.

Corydoras are another option.
:? corydoras? Ive never heard of them eating algae, i think your getting them mixed up with the oto catfish

Good algae eaters:
Brittlenose Pleco
Oto catfish
Japanese Amano Shrimp
True siamese algae eaters
False Siamese algae eater (less effective than the true)

Bad algae eaters:
Chinese algae eaters, otherwise known as Algae eater
Snails fall somewhere in the middle, they might get rid of the algae problem, but then you will probably have the problem of getting rid of the snails....

and by glass shrimp do you mean ghost shrimp (Paleomonetes sp)? I dont see how these shrimp pose any threat to fish, they only post a threat to fry.
 

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no glass shrimp are huge not to be confused with anything else- they look like mini crayfish, they will catch and eat cardinals its not a ptretty thing!
 

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can you give a scientific name, normally when i hear glass shrimp i think of ghost shrimp, they dont get that big and are favorites for a clean-up crew. Common names are complicated :roll:
 

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I have 4 corys in the tank and they only eat the sinking shrimp pellets as far as i can tell they wont eat the algae..


the algae is not that bad its just starting it seems and its the bright green algae, the reason i can see it easily is we have white gravel in the tank witch makes the algae show up more easy..I did a gravel vac this morning and it helped remove some of it cause our gravel is very thin (makes for easy cleaning)... :wink:
 

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well i dont think small amounts of algae pose any threat, they work just like plants to reduce nitrates and phosphates and provide a diet for some fish, if you dont like the look of it or if it is out of control or if it is causing problems (taking nutrients away from your plants) introducing fish is the best way to get rid of the algae while finding out why the algae came in the first place and fixing that problem. After that you wont have much of an algae problem
 

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Lots of different fish eat lots of different algae. For the stuff on the glass, Bristlenosed plecos (regular or albino) stay under 5", Bulldog Plecos mostly stay under 5" (the ones from PetSmart are one of the smaller species), and Pitbull Plecos stay around 2". Ottos are also great glass cleaners, but can be a little delicate, ans sometimes will ONLY eat algae - one per 10 gallons of tak will make it sparkle.

For hair and brush algae, shrimp are great. Amanos do get an inch and a half or maybe a little more (I have 6 in two tanks, from just under 1" to just over 1.5") They seem to do an OK job, but I really don't have enough for full algae control (5 per 20 gallons or even 10 would probably do better).

Mollies, Sword tails, and American Flag fish (sometimes incorrectly called Florida Flag fish) all do a good job on green thread algae. Unfortunatley, they are all hard water fish.

Siamese Algae Eaters (SAEs) get up to 6" log, but are the only fish know to eat Black Brush Algae, and they eat the other kinds of algae too. False SAEs look very much like SAEs (there are differences) also eat some algae, but not quite as well. Chinese Algae Eaters only eat algae when young. As they age, they get aggressive and carnivourous. Don't buy them unless you are planning on setting up a species tank. Here's a rundown of the various look-like Southeast Asian algae eaters.

Butterfly Plecos, aka Hong Kong Plecos, accurately called Hillstream Loaches also eat algae, but they prefer cool, well oxygenated water and a strong current. They're really only suited to a subtropical river tank.

In a 55, I'd go with (In fact, I have gone with) a pair or trio of bristlenosed plecos and/or three SAEs. If it were a long established tank, I might get 5 to 7 Ottos.
 

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Corys should eat your algae, mine at least eat their algae wafers and I have zilch visible algae on my gravel, thanks to my handy Ammano shrimp (who stay small, the ghost shrimp don't) and now Melafini Corys (? i'm checking on that)
 

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It is true that corys will eat algae wafers. It is possible that they will eat algae growing on the gravel. Other than that, though, they don't eat algae. My loaches like to eat algae wafers too, but I still get a fair amount of algae on the loach tank.
 

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I found that an ounce of prevention works wonders for algae control. I had an issue for a while. I now use some real plants mixed in with my silk ones. Not only does it make the tank look good, but it eats up the nitrates which the algae thrives on.

The other thing that worked for me was phosphate control. I had high phosphates and I now use filter media that reduces them. That helped tremendously to get a handle on it.
 

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I looked at 3 different pet shops for a bristlenose pleco and none had any,
one of them had what were called rubber lipped suckers are those good for helping algae control?



Live plants would be hard for me to add to the tank because the gravel is really thin, The only plant i could possible add would be some java moss or some type of floating plant.

What type of media do you use to control phosphate?
 

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Rubber Lipped Suckers are Plecos so it should eat algae. I don't know if they are more/less/same efficient than any other Pleco though.

I only have 2 small live plants in the corner. I forgot the variety of the plant I have, but it really helped. I also put a tiny one in our 3 gallon. Maybe you can build a small mound of gravel to secure it in the corner.

I buy the media I use at Petco. I can't remember the name, but it's a large cut-to-fit light green floss that is marked on the package to "help with the removal of phosphates". One of the moderators here suggested I test for phosphates, but I couldn't find a kit so I bought the floss to try. It worked right away, so my guess is I have high phosphates, which algae thrives on.

Do you have any foam or bubbles on the top of the water, even if slight?
 

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yea if i look up to the top from the bottom it looks like tiny little bubbles on the surface, i just figured it was from the bio-wheels ..
 

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Then I bet that's it. I never did find a phosphate testing kit, but now I use the cartridge that comes with the Eclipse, and I add a small piece of the phosphate removing media and it's been good.
 
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