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Pictures would be sweet can't wait

Will take some Pics tonight.

I was thinking today all the wood is bare but maybe I should paint all the wood. I should have thought about that before I filled some tanks but it is what it is at this point. If I painted the rack it would have a nice clean look and seal the wood so it won't get wet, not that getting wet has been a issue in the last few months.
 

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Okay time for some update photos. It is still a work in progress so everything isn't perfect.

This is a shot from my door, The tank on the left is a 29g and the large one is my 125g it is empty at the moment still working on cleaning it. I will fill it fully this weekend and allow it to set a week or so to make sure of no leaks before I add fish.

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Next is the fish rack. It was too big to take just one photo so I had to take 3.

Left side, Middle, Right side

Left side has my 55g on bottom, 30g in middle and empty 10g on top
Middle Gecko and empty 20g on bottom, two 20g L middle and two 10g fry tanks on top
Right side has 55g on bottom, Bearded dragon middle, 5g & 10g empty on top

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In the corner you can see a small stand with two 20g Tall tanks, my buckets, and other stuff that has found it's way into the fish room.

I'm not happy with my lights, I'm going to see about changing them out but not sure what I will go with.
 

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whats the other spot for your sink? By the buckets? I would base it on where the plumbing comes from. And jjposko has some really nice leds set up, most likely gonna go with those lights my self....
 

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Well I have the standard $15 48" lowes shop lights with 6500k bulbs over my betta tanks. I have 2 Current Freshwater + LED 48" lights over my ten gallon tanks which I really like. Then I have my 6000k LED flloodlights test over my 29g tank(2x10w 1 20w). I really like the current LED's but the flood lights seem to be doing great over my 29g tank.
 

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Room really looks good. What don't you like about your light setup?
Thanks

The lights on the second self are 6500k and I was a little worried they where too much for my low light plants, causing them not to grow. But this weekend I gave the tanks a super clearing and really spend some time looking at the plants they are all doing very well. When I set the tanks up I had 6-7 sections of java fern that as 2-3" each now I have 20-25 sections all about 2" so they are growing better than I thought they where. My Swords lost all their leaves but have grown new ones just wish they where bigger. I need to get replace some of the smaller lights with the 48" lights. I have another one that is white I could paint it black like the others or just buy a few more the black ones.


whats the other spot for your sink? By the buckets? I would base it on where the plumbing comes from. And jjposko has some really nice leds set up, most likely gonna go with those lights my self....
I was thinking the sink would go where the 29 gallon is. I have a drain and water just on the other side of the wall just to the left of the 125g tank. It is 2-3 feet from the corner. If I put it at the end of the 125g I would have to run the water and drain 8 feet so not a problem. If I put the sink where the 29g is now(left of the 125g) I would have to run less plumbing but I would limit my self on expanding for more tanks. I also worry about the sink blocking part of the view to the 55g, but that feels like the best choice.


Well I have the standard $15 48" lowes shop lights with 6500k bulbs over my betta tanks. I have 2 Current Freshwater + LED 48" lights over my ten gallon tanks which I really like. Then I have my 6000k LED flloodlights test over my 29g tank(2x10w 1 20w). I really like the current LED's but the flood lights seem to be doing great over my 29g tank.
I have the same shop lights from lowes on the second shelf. I will look at the LED lights on your thread, I like the idea of LED but I'm pretty cheap so I went with the shop lights.


Next on my list is working out where to put my next set of tanks.

I built the 125g stand with the idea of putting two 29g under so going to move the 29g over once I get another one. That will free up the 29g double stand I could use some place else. I really wanted to add four 75g tanks this summer but I'm not sure I have the room. I could build a double rack on the wall where the 29g is to hold 2 tanks no problem but if I put 4 on the wall it will cover the heating vent which will effect my temperature in the room this winter.

I could do two 75g and maybe three 40g breeders but that would limit the larger fish. Or I could pick up more 29g tanks, I have room for 3 more of those but after Kong(my oscar) grows out of his current 29g I don't know what I will be putting in those tanks.

I guess I need to work out what fish I want then what tanks to buy.
 

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Sorry for all those picts in your thread. I thought you were looking for options, not concern over plant growth. You cant beat the shop lights for what they cost and they grow low light plants great.

If you are planning on big fish then the bigger tanks are worth putting in.

Can you re-route the heating vent above/below/to the side to an area that won't get blocked? That way you could accommodate the tanks you want.

I am looking forward to what fish you decide to get and raise.
 

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Sorry for all those picts in your thread. I thought you were looking for options, not concern over plant growth. You cant beat the shop lights for what they cost and they grow low light plants great.

If you are planning on big fish then the bigger tanks are worth putting in.

Can you re-route the heating vent above/below/to the side to an area that won't get blocked? That way you could accommodate the tanks you want.

I am looking forward to what fish you decide to get and raise.

Glad to see your pics, all are welcome.

Right now my plants are all low light and I know going to the high light plants I will have to really upgrade my lights, but like i said I'm cheap so I might just stay with the low light ones and cheaper lights. THat leaves move money for fish and tanks.:lol:

I know I will need two 75g tanks but if I had four I would fill them up for sure. I want to get some convict cichlids but I might use a 29g or maybe one of the 55g and move the Angels to the 29g. I'm working on a list of fish I want to keep I will post it here and get some feedback on what tanks to go with.

I didn't think about moving the heat vent that that would be a idea. Thanks for that tip.


Again your pics are welcome thanks for sharing, I need help narrowing my options.
 

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Those current freshwater LED bars are sweet I may have started a few people down this road.... Best part is the leds are adjustable with the remote and its only around a 100 dollar tag. (About the best value I can find) ...... Thinking of combining the flood light design with my light bar (the reflective cone) gonna need to build my glass hoods first.

Side note: current leds wont burn low light plants (mine is at full strength and out of 7 anubius nana 0 are burned)
 

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This weekend I will be working on getting all my lights on timers so I don't have to plug them in every morning. That is starting to get old with half on the timer and half not. I'm also going to move my 29g so it is under the 125 where I planed for it to go in the first place. While doing some spring cleaning I found a box full of HOB filters I forgot I had so I will clean those up and throw away any that are beyond repair or parts. I found a few lights also I know one is bad but I don't remember which one.

Hoping to find a faster way to do water changes. I have a few ideas to work on this weekend that should speed things up. I do 25-30% water changes on Tue, and Thrus for tanks with fish that are still growing(all but one tank) and Saturday morning everyone gets a 30% water change a good tank cleaning. I also use that time to moved decor around or change anything else on the tanks. Right now it takes about 90 mins to do everything on Sat but I think I can get that to less than a hour easy.
 

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Why not go dirt with the low lights, dustyn's fish tanks on youtube..... Don't buy any of his stuff but watch his vids. Hes real hot on dirt tanks with flouresents. My dirt tank would be growing like mad if the acara's didnt thrash them during a mating dance. Cost me $2.50 to do, and some good old WC's...
 

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My water changing now has been improving for the last few months, I have learned a few things to save time (bigger hoses more buckets) but there is still a lot of room for improvement. I have a 3/4" hose attached to a soda bottle to vacume the larger tanks, it drains to fast on the 20g or less so I use the one from the pet store with 1/4" hose. I drain into 5 gallon buckets the I have to carry them about 40 feet to my drain. I have 5 buckets so I can at least carry two at the same time. When I refill I use a garden hose and place it into the tank and fill all the tanks back up while I add Prime.

Last night I change about 85 gallons of water in little over a hour. But that was very little scrubbing of the tanks I vac the gravel some but my major cleaning is done on Sat mornings.

I will be getting the items tonight to make one of these. http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/diy-aquarium/water-change-assist-533378/

And I have a idea for a drain so I can drain my water right into that and not the bucket. If I don't have to worry about the buckets and holding the hose while the water refills it should cut my time in half.

[email protected] I have thought about going to dirt tanks but I just can't bring my self to make that leap. I have watched some of Dustins videos but I can't handle to much of his sales pitch, so I only watch a few then move along.

I have live plants in 3 of my tanks and I really like the way they look, all my others have fake plants. I got the shop lights with 6500k bulbs thinking it would help my swords grow but so far not so much, maybe going to dirt would help them really kick off. I was able to find some driftwood locally so I have thought about updating my tanks to a better aquacscape and if I change to dirt that would be the best time.

I will have to look into that a lot more. Thanks
 

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I do the same idea as in that link, I just switch out the end to a longer or shorter piece. Get yourself a 35 gallon Rubbermaid garbage can, and one of those emergency pumps commonly found at Home Depot or Ace Hardware normally used to deal with water in the basement. You'll also need a hose long enough to run to a drain. Siphon the tanks into the can, plug in the pump to drain. If you want to get fancy/lazy you can hook a float switch to the pump. Use the hose to fill when done draining, if you run a 2nd hose you can fill one tank while the next is draining. Those pumps are designed to drain down to about 1/4" of water, and have a screen to block things like plant debris, gravel, or snail shells.
 

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Dirt tanks are really easy to set up and once you get past the month mark your tank mantainance goes down by 50%.... If you try dirt just get the cheap topsoil, cook at 185 degrees F to kill the bugs and other stuff. One inch dirt one inch gravel, most important part is one inch of dirt... Sand and gravel are somewhat interchangeable, altho you will have less problems with gravel (sand needs MTS to work right). Seriously easy for a guys like us to set up, I personally will only use dirt in my planted tanks now. If you try a small tester tank I can be pretty sure you will be like "why didin't I do this sooner". It has to be the most cost effective upgrade all based on the common sense fact that plants need dirt.
 

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I do the same idea as in that link, I just switch out the end to a longer or shorter piece. Get yourself a 35 gallon Rubbermaid garbage can, and one of those emergency pumps commonly found at Home Depot or Ace Hardware normally used to deal with water in the basement. You'll also need a hose long enough to run to a drain. Siphon the tanks into the can, plug in the pump to drain. If you want to get fancy/lazy you can hook a float switch to the pump. Use the hose to fill when done draining, if you run a 2nd hose you can fill one tank while the next is draining. Those pumps are designed to drain down to about 1/4" of water, and have a screen to block things like plant debris, gravel, or snail shells.
I got the "tool" built and I made the tip so I can change it for different tanks. I picked up the stuff Friday night but I got once of the connectors wrong so I wasn't able to use it Sat morning on my water changes. But I got the right one sat evening and did a test run on my 125 to see how it worked, very happy with it.

I thought about the garbage can system but I don't want to store that in my room while I not using it. I'm working on a idea of hooking up PVC onto my rack at the bottom and run that to my drain. I can drain the tanks right into that so I won't need long hoses or have them running across the floor. Still in the early stage but when I have it worked out I will post photos for you guys. Might tank me a week or so got a lot of ideas to work on for the fish room.

Dirt tanks are really easy to set up and once you get past the month mark your tank mantainance goes down by 50%.... If you try dirt just get the cheap topsoil, cook at 185 degrees F to kill the bugs and other stuff. One inch dirt one inch gravel, most important part is one inch of dirt... Sand and gravel are somewhat interchangeable, altho you will have less problems with gravel (sand needs MTS to work right). Seriously easy for a guys like us to set up, I personally will only use dirt in my planted tanks now. If you try a small tester tank I can be pretty sure you will be like "why didin't I do this sooner". It has to be the most cost effective upgrade all based on the common sense fact that plants need dirt.

I looked a lot into dirt tanks, I cleaned up two 20g High tanks this weekend and I will pick up some dirt and gravel this week. Not sure I have enough plants to plant them both but I have enough for at least one.

My goal has been to get my plants growing well so I can stock all my tanks with plants with out having to spend all the money to buy plants for them all. This might work I know it will take a few months but I got the time.



This weekend I got a lot done, on top of all my normal maintenance stuff
--Moved some of my lights around and everyone is on timers.
--Moved the bearded dragon to my sons room, he wanted him up there with him. I'm guessing after a few weeks that he will be back in my room, but by then I will have another shelf for him.
--Found a source for free drift wood. I will see about getting some photos of them this week and posting a thread about them but I have 12 pieces right now soaking.

This week I need to get my meal worm project going(I will post details later), get my dirtied tank setup, start laying out my drain system, and build a tortoise table for my oldest son.
 
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