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First the basic answers from the sticky.

1. 90 gallon tank
2. Freshwater
3. 2 weeks old
4. (6) Mollies, (12) Molly fry, (1) 4" Algae Eater (actual species unknown)
5. (1) 6" live plant (species unknown but bought at LFS)
6. (2) Emperor 400 HOBs and (1) Magnum 350 cannister (in middle)
6a. (2) 300 watt VisiTemp heaters - tank at 78 degrees
7. No CO2 unit but I did add one tablespoon of salt per 5 gallons
8. Aquarium is near a window but no direct sunlight hits it
9. Water change was done 4 days ago before putting fish in
10. Daily - once or twice (flakes every day, krill or blood worms or shrimp pellets as a treat - algae tablet once a week)
11. Fluorescent lamp (one 48" tube that came with hood) - 10 hours daily (on timer)

Ok, so this is basically my new setup, upgrading from a 10 gallon that I had great success with for 4 years, even though I only learned about the cycle, etc in the past 3 weeks.

I openly encourage anyone to critique my setup now...because I thought I did a good job. I am quite nervous though having jumped 9x in size.



The tank isn't at an angle as it seems...I took the pic in a hurry and this is my first time hosting/posting a pic on a forum. Apologies if it doesn't work out.

My first question is that I wanted to get this going quickly, for fry space, so I ported over some gravel, the filters (Whisper model in 10 gal placed within tank of the Emperors for a week), and ornaments into the new tank, had it running for over a week, only used dechlorinate on the water and Stabil (bacteria product) all around. I moved the fish over 3 days ago, and yet my readings this morning were zero for ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate. Now the fish 'appear' to be doing fine, in fact they continue to swim all over the place exploring, but I want to know where my Nitrates went since my tap water out the faucet gives a reading of 20-40ppm?

Do I have too much water flow in the tank with all this filtration? I am worried about the fry being thrust around although they seem fine so far.

I am going to be experimenting with additional material in the Emp user-changeable filters, possibly using Ammo-carb and floss.

Now, although it is not directly in the sun, natural light does hit this tank more then it did the old 10 gallon, so I am curious about these UV Filters for algae and pest control, like ick. I may pick one up to go on the return from the Mag350, but I am sort of waiting to see signs that I need it. Comments on this?

I have my 2 thermometers next to the heaters, and I am told they should be far away, so I am moving them later today. I will be attempting more live plants if the one I got survives a bit, I put 2 plant feeder tablets in the gravel near it and I have extras for later.

I have more questions (like fish ideas) but I will let it go with just what I have underlined here for now. Thanks for any comments.
 

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Thanks...

I know, I should have used some minnows for that week, but it was one (not the only!) thing that slipped my mind with going 140 miles for the tank/stand and then more mileage/shopping for the rest of the new stuff.

I hate to say this, but if I lost the fish I have, it wouldn't be catastrophic...I could replace them for $20.

One question I forgot to add to my other crap, is my pH is ~7.8 out of the tap and in the tank. I would like to get this down to 7.5. Any recommendations for such? I have used drops in the past but am weary of that.

I went 4 years with the 10 gallon, never checked a thing and the water was always just crystal clear. I only lost fish if I didn't change out the water every 6 months. I had overkill in filtration then too (a 20 gallon sized Whisper). Dunno what I was doing right.
 

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I read that Mollies like 7.5, and if I want to introduce other types of fish or creatures (not yet), I didn't want it to affect them.

My test kit is Aquarium Pharmaceuticals Freshwater Master Test Kit
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Product/Prod_Display.cfm?pcatid=4454&N=2004+113074

I don't have anything to check Mag and Calcium, hardness, or oxygen, yet.

Question further about sunlight...are you saying a room without windows at all? I figured if people put their tanks in living rooms and bedrooms, then mine could handle being in a dining room, just that it is not up against the window and there is an overhang and trees in the yard that blocks the sun directly.
 

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Ok...sorry I stopped to run a spyware scan on my wife's PC. :roll:

My lonely plant (a first attempt at seeing if I can handle plants). I don't know what type, I bought it at Petco for like 3 bucks. It came with a black plastic basket on the bottom.


Alright, I won't fool with ph then. All the better anyway.

I may have been confusing...my tank isn't in front of a window. It is just in a room with a large window across from it, but not directly in front. My tank (both the 10 and now the 90) temperatures are always steady, especially since I found out how much better heaters with internal thermometers are.
 

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FDS, how do you deal with the algae problem when it appears then? Scrub and scape or something else? I never had a problem (knock on wood) with the 10 gallon in the same room as this one, but I am going to be watching like a hawk for the first signs of it.

I watch the new tank like a hawk anyway, especially checking for leaks every time I pass by it. :? Haven't seen or had one yet.

If the pH gets to 8 or more, should I then act on it? Just curious more then anything. I would rather use filter material then chemicals to treat my water if it gets bad.
 

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Now for my really stupid question. I am confused on what type of bulb to get to replace the one that came with my hood.

It's a 48" Flour Perfecto hood. What type of bulb works in these, I see T-8, T-10 (which I think it came with), T-12? Don't understand these numbers.

Also, the hood only has one bulb in it. How am I suppossed to get 2 watts per gallon (90 gallons) for plants to work with this? I only got the 13" deep one, so I do have space behind it, I am wondering if I am suppossed to get just a twin-bulb strip then. Seems like a lot of lighting for 8-10 hours a day.

I am going to get some kh, gh, etc test kits...so I can cover the rest of the essentials. A UV Sterilizer is really looking like a good idea as well (I don't think it can hurt).

Thanks for all your help and the welcome, sorry to be a pest. If everything goes well for a week or 2, I can start looking at other species for the tank.
 

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Yeah, I figured that but it still sounds like an awful lot of light! My dining room is going to glow.

I find these Java Ferns interesting though, they look nice and it says they don't need a lot of light.

I have alot of active charcoal filtration going on right now, could I take the charcoal out of the Magnum's canister and instead put BioBalls in it or ceramic pieces?
 

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Just wanted to give a little update here.

I took readings today which would be one week with the fish in it. I got 0 for both ammonia and nitrites, and 5 for nitrate. I still don't know how I got to 0 on nitrates last time, with my tap water being 20-40, but it may have been a bad reading. I then did a 10% water change.

This filtration setup I got going on here seems to be doing a heck of a good job.

One of my Mollies, the oldest and only Lyretail male, appears to have gained a swim bladder problem. He is having a lot of difficulty swimming, being mostly vertical at times, but he is being smart and either hanging in a corner at the top, or hanging out under my castle. I don't think he is going to last much longer though, however he has to be a year or more old now since I haven't bought Lyretails in a long time.

I did feed all of them cut-up peas, and while the rest enjoyed the snack, it didn't seem to help the affected molly much.

All the rest seem to be fine, as best as I can tell. The adults and fry are swimming all over the place, and even the algae eater is more active in the daylight, sticking his mouthpiece all over gravel and the ornaments and flying around the tank.
 

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Apologies if resurrecting a post-Page One thread is a no-no, and for replying to my own post...but I have another question or two and some updates.

I added 3 Corys, 3 Female Mollies, and 3 Rainbows over 2 weeks ago, and some ghost shrimp as an experiment with them (2 large ones survived, while the Rainbows ate well). Also threw a moss ball in the tank for my daughter (don't ask :oops: ). I accidentally killed 3 of my older mollies (again, don't ask).

I am going for some more Corys and Mollies tomorrow, along with hopefully a patch of Java Moss. Possibly another 'schooling' type fish in a bunch.

I now have a 25W UV lamp on the Magnum 350 return and a Nova Extreme hood doing 162W of HO T5 lighting. Also, I found Bio Spira and bought some, stored most away in the fridge and poured one in for the heck of it. Readings have been really good (before and after).

With my current filtration, the fish don't seem to be thrashed around, and the food will drop to the bottom, before it is pulled across to the filters.

My question is, if I go with CO2, would throwing a Rena XP2 or 3 on the tank (in addition to the 2 Emp 400 and Magnum) be ok? I would like to use the Venturi nozzle on the Filstar to feed the CO2. I would also like to use the media baskets in it for specialized filtering like Purigen bags...instead of in the Emps because the water doesn't seem to flow *through* the bag.

My other question is, I was thinking of a Magnum 250 HOB filter to use with a gravel cleaner and for it's Micro-Filter once or twice a week. There are a lot of dust particles in it and I have the Python but I am looking for more power suction. Would having this running periodically be an issue?

Too much flow? Money isn't an issue, except to my old lady. Thanks again for any wisdom.
 
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