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Which liquid ferts are you using? What do you suggest? Ups? Downs?

I know i need a comprehensive fert.

I have heard good about API Leaf Zone and Seachem flourish. WHich is better?

Thanks a ton!
 

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thanks for the help. So far that seems to be the general consensus. Anybody else have experiences?

I noticed the flourish is a odd brown color with an odd smell. Will that make the water look/smell odd?
 

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i cant tell in mine, i got driftwood so my waters tea colored. I dont think it will though since the dosage is pretty small.
 

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thanks for the help. So far that seems to be the general consensus. Anybody else have experiences?

I noticed the flourish is a odd brown color with an odd smell. Will that make the water look/smell odd?
I also use Flourish and it does not color my water or make it smell odd in the least. It's a good product that works. :)
 

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What size tanks do you use it in?

Just wanted to verify it didnt alter the water. I will be picking some up tonight.

Is it okay to use with shrimp?
 

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I use Flourish fertilizer and Flourish Excel for carbon on my 6 gallon Eclipse. My java fern is doing good with excellent color and my crypt is growing like a weed. With the amount of fertilizer you add and the regularity of it I've never had an issue with water color or smell.
 

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What is this Flourish Excel? I will go google it here in a minute, but should i get some? Right now I am keeping pretty basic plants. Just trying to figure out what the added bonus of excel is to determine if and when i should get it.
 

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Flourish is a fertilizer, Flourish Excel is a carbon supplement. The tank I use them in is only 6 gallons and also at my office. A full on CO2 injection system would be both overkill and an unsightly mess in my office. Excel supplies the plants with the carbon they need but in a liquid form that's easy to dose.
 

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excel is a carbon substitute, it stays in your tank longer than co2, but get pricey if you does it regularly since its not a cheap fert. However, it does wonders if your tank is lacking in co2. Also, some people overdoes excel to fight some types of algae growth
 

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So as long as i am growing easy care plants i shouldnt need excel? When i get to the point of needing CO2 injection i will be buying it before adding the plants that need it.
 

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excel is basically liquid co2 so it wont leave the tank with surface agitation and such. It depends, my plants i only dose excel once a week because i ahve very little surface agitation so i retain a lot of the co2 my fish generate. In my 20 gallon w/ bubblewand, i had to dose it once every 2 days.
 

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In a small tank a single bottle will last a long time. I got my bottle for $7 bucks at the LFS and it's lasted me about 4 months so far and it's only half empty.
 

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Oops sorry. I meant Excel. Haha.. no worries tho. I just picked up a bottle of Leaf zone, as well as setup a DIY co2 for my 16, well see how this combo goes. Getting about 1 bubble per 4 sec
 

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well excel is just liquid carbon so i think its essentially the same as having a co2 injection but easier to control... also more expensive in the long run.
 
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