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nothing :cry: i lost the male too 3 days ago. i dont know.
 

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What was the readings for the water?
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pH 8.1
0.03 nitrites
0 ammonia
temperature 78 degrees F
13 drops for gH so i think it was around 280 ppm
i dont have a kh tester
 

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What about nitrates? What test kit are you using?
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How are the fry doing?
Just read the whole thread now, I'm so sorry about your losses. Don't think your a bad fish keeper, everyone losses some. It takes time, experience and dedication to get "good" at this hobby.
I know it's hard, but sometimes fry are just meant to be eaten. I have guppies, and I feed some babies to my bettas, since they have babies just as much as your fish are having them, I ly I have six females! You can't keep all the fry, or you'll go dead broke.
Your best bet is to get the API master test kit, it is absolutely wonderful, and you get wayore tests than you would in any other test kit!
 

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I do have the API master test kit! It doesn't come with nitrate testing though. I did a water change about a week before she died. Thanks for your support.

As for the fry, the newborn are all gone. However, the older fry are all nearing over half an inch now! One thing though: some of the fry are exceptionally puny. They were almost the same size as the newborns. Also, a lot of the babies have literally disappeared. They are just there one day and gone the next. The fry are still too small to be eating them, and besides, they are all stil pretty gentle at this point. I don't see any bodies either. Where did my babies go?
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Fry can hide very very well if there is a lot of rock structure in the tank, I moved a rock once with a tiny tiny space at the bottom, well in all directions went about 15 fry I thought I had lost. There isnt a pleco in with the fry is there?

If you API Master test kit didnt come with the Nitrate test kit SEND IT BACK, it contains the Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrate and high and low range pH as stock.
 

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I agree with Taz..my Master Kit came with two bottles for ammonia, one for nitrite, two for nitrate, one for ph and one for high ph.

Taz, plecos eat fry?! What is this?
 

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While it s not a common it sometimes happens.
Mainly at night, when sleeping fry get vacuumed up by the pleco accidentally.
 

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no, the fry are in there by themselves. the only hiding spots are under the sponge filter where i can easily see them or inside a cave i put in there. chances are they aren't inside the cave either, as the older fry are very overprotective of this cave. in fact, that is true with the sponge filter too. when i was trying to put a divider in the tank to separate the grown fry from the newborns, the older ones would not leave the sponge filter! in fact, i put the divider, and then i scooped the fry out and put them into the other side, but they somehow managed to get to the filter again! i just left them without the divider after that, and then they disappeared.

as for the test kit, i have had it for over a year now, i think it is too late for me to return it :roll:
 
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If I'm not too late, I suggest staying out of Petsmart for Af. Chiclids if possible, and when you buy, get the smallest ones you can. Make sure all the fish you get are as close to the same size as possible. The larger ones are pretty, but in the long run, you get to watch them grow up, and I think they get along better than mixing adults together.
 
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