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Hey everyone!

I am trying to heavily plant my 10 gallon tank and have been looking at different plants. I currently have jungle vallisneria and I really like the look of wisteria. About a week ago I planted some wisteria in my tank (gravel substrate) and after a few days they were severely rotting. Do you have any suggestions on how get them to take root and keep from rotting? I'm using Seachem Flourish Comprehensive Supplement for the Planted Aquarium and Seachem Flourish Tabs.

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Make sure to have it under the light. It does best this way and not shaded. Can you get a pic of it?
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Hey everyone!

I am trying to heavily plant my 10 gallon tank and have been looking at different plants. I currently have jungle vallisneria and I really like the look of wisteria. About a week ago I planted some wisteria in my tank (gravel substrate) and after a few days they were severely rotting. Do you have any suggestions on how get them to take root and keep from rotting? I'm using Seachem Flourish Comprehensive Supplement for the Planted Aquarium and Seachem Flourish Tabs.

Thank you,
DanielaMarie
Define rotting please.

A note about Wisteria is that almost all that you buy from 'big box' stores (in person or online) are the emersed form, which means they have the leaves the plant grows when they are out of the water.

The emersed form has shorter, more round leaves.


The submerged form however has fairly long, thin, and branchy leaves.


Those pictures are both the same plant. After being put under water, the large leaves all curl up and drop off, while those new leaves start to spring out. Everything below the substrate will rot away, and roots will form at the lowest node.

As mentioned, Wisteria likes a bit brighter light, so if you have dim lighting or they're under shade they will not do as well. Sometimes they will continue to grow, but they will be bare stalks except at the very top.
 

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Thank you for the replies.

What the store carries is the submerged form planted in a dirt tank. I didn't get a picture of them but the leaves were falling off and the stems had turned completely brown and squished/disintegrated when I pulled them out.
 

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That sounds like they were rotting then. Hmmm so is this the only plant you are having problems with??
 

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Humm, well it's not planting that's the issue. It grows fine floating, in gravel, or in sand (and obviously dirt).

Are the tanks they come from high light and CO2 injected tanks? Maybe a dramatic shift in environment is shocking them.

And how about your tank, what lights do you have on it?
 

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The tank they were in was high light and I'm guessing with CO2 injections, although I don't know for sure since it was their plant tank and they know what they're doing.

I don't use CO2 and I have a single Aqueon Full Spectrum 15W T8 18" fluorescent bulb in my hood.
 

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Your light is the issue I believe as its not "bright" enough for wisteria (not sure if its even a good plant bulb). I would switch it for a Zoomed Ultra sun Super daylight bulb or Hagen makes a plant bulb too that's good. With one of those you might be able to grow wisteria if they are directly under the light.
 

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The tank they were in was high light and I'm guessing with CO2 injections, although I don't know for sure since it was their plant tank and they know what they're doing.

I don't use CO2 and I have a single Aqueon Full Spectrum 15W T8 18" fluorescent bulb in my hood.
For what size tank?
From what I understand, Wisteria is a low light plant and likely should do just fine with what you have.
 

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Wisteria doesn't do all that well in low light. It's definitely a moderate to high light plant.

I did start this plant though in a 20g tall tank using that same 18" Aqueon tube. For reference, it is 8000K and kind of purplish.

The Wisteria under that light did grow, but very slowly. I got mine from Petsmart, so it came in those tubes, and looked like the first picture I posted with the small, fat, leaves. I have heard from a lot of people though that it just didn't work out for them.
 

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Wisteria doesn't do all that well in low light. It's definitely a moderate to high light plant..
If you click the profile link, Wisteria, it says the plant is a low light plant.
 

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If you click the profile link, Wisteria, it says the plant is a low light plant.
That is another problem in the profiles that has been resolved as they are moved over. All plant profiles are now in the new Reference Area, though the old profile section is still "active" but this will disappear when everything (fish, etc) is moved over.

In the old profile section, the one that you get to by clicking ther shaded names, the plant profiles had a standard "Care Level" section near the top. There were 3 or 4 possibles, Easy, Medium, Difficult, etc. The text was automatic when you selected one of these. I realized shortly after we built this that it would cause trouble as one cannot be so general in all cases. But as this was an automatic area, it couldn't be changed. If you go further down, under Lighting requirements, it says moderate to bright.

In the new profile section, under the Reference Area, the top paragraph has been removed for all plants to avoid this confusion.

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Guessing a typo, further down it has-

"Lighting requirements

Moderate to bright; growth will be slower under moderate light. The light intensity has a bearing on the leaf structure as noted under Physical Description."
hm....interesting and conflicting information.

It cannot be a low/high light plant. Its either low, moderate or high lighting.
 

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hm....interesting and conflicting information.

It cannot be a low/high light plant. Its either low, moderate or high lighting.
I explained the conflict in my last post. Please read it. It explains why it is "low" and "moderate to high" together in the profile.

As for moderate to high, this is about the best one can say. There is sometimes a fair amount of variability in the light required, and it somewhat depends upon other factors (nutrients, water depth, fish load, floating plants, etc). What will grow in moderate light in my tank may not in yours, and vice versa. I think saying moderate to high is descriptive of the light needs of this species.

Byron.
 
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