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I am going to set up a 58 gallon tank with just neon tetras. Using the formulas for how many I can keep in my tank (tank volume,surface area/inches and weight of fish) I end up with wildy different answers, between 15 and 100 fish!!

The tank is 58 g. (about 40 by 22 by 16 inches,not exact)

How many you think?
 

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With good filtration you will easily keep 100 as they are so sml, Its only when you start adding other fish you will have to make some changes to the stocking level
 

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I might put in a school of cories to help clean the bottom of the tank (and I like them) but I pretty much just want neons, or prehaps cardinals. I think they look great schooling in large numbers.

Maybe 60 neons and 10 cories?
 

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I might put in a school of cories to help clean the bottom of the tank (and I like them) but I pretty much just want neons, or prehaps cardinals. I think they look great schooling in large numbers.

Maybe 60 neons and 10 cories?
That will be fine :D
 

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Thanks, do you think neons or cardinals would be better? I think cardinals are prettier but they are anot quite so hardy from what I read. Any personal experience?
 

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Welcome.:wave:

I find it a bluff that cardinals are not hardy once acclimated.:shake: But transportation probably is. However, I have no problems whatsoever even with transporting my cardinals. They're very hardy in my experience.:)
 

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Start yourself up with 40 neons and 10 pygmy cories and 5 ottos. Work up to 60/30/10. Lilliput! I have a 20 gallon on this very scheme.
 

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Don't worry I'll cycle the tank first and add a few fish at a time.

Thanks for the sugestions.
 

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What other plans do you have for the tank? Are you going to have it planted? What sort of substrate are you thinking of using?

Planted tanks with large shoals of cardinals/neons look absolutely stunning!

Good luck with it, and please post pics when you have it set up :)
 

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A tank of cardinals is a beautiful sight! Neons are always nice, but cardinals are more eye-catching.

If I am correct, I believe cardinals can get up to 2 inches, so I would remember to keep that in mind when you purchase them. I would also keep a couple of corys to keep it clean.

Definitely post photos when it's all set up!
 

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inch/g should not be followed with this size of an aquarium...in technical speaking it shouldnt be used at all.
i would say 60-90 neons and maybe 50-80 cardinals. they do look a lot better and ive noticed they tend to actually live...unlike multiple neons i have been through.
this would be a nice tank to plant if you just want the tetras and corys.
 

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Thanks for all the thoughts.

I am going to plant it with easy plants and use driftwood and a few stones to decorate. I think I'll go with cardinals :) . I'm now thinking of moving my idea to the 78 gallon tank I've got empty. I'll post pics when I've got it set up but it will be months if I decide on that tank cos It's going to get built in under the stairs but the stairs don't exist yet so it's going to take a while :lol: !!
 

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xingumike said:
Cardinals all the way, beat neons anyday of the week
Seconded the tune all the way.:welldone: I like them better than neons.:)
 

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That will be pricey, but gorgeous! good luck and happy fishkeeping!
 

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What is it with all these Neon haters? Sheesh! Neons are great little fish. You just need to quarantine them.

Cardinals are 10-15% prettier than neons, and 200-300% more exepensive. And a mix of the two looks better than either alone. (Me, I'll stick with just neons.)

In all honesty, if you're going with a big tank full of little tetras, you would probably do best with a mix of Neons, Cardinals, Green Neons, Black Neons, and Glo-lights (Plus a cory cleaning crew). In a 78, you're looking at 100 to 140 fish possible, So you could go with 50 neons, 25 cardinals, 10 black neons, 10 Glo-lights, and 7 abino or 15 pygmy cories, and 5 ottos. Or you could go with 80 cardinals, or 110 neons (30 of which will prob'ly die - get 'em, from somewhere with a guarantee). You'd pay half or less for the neons, even including attrition. Still, add 7-12 cories and 5-7 ottos, and that sounds like an awesome tank.
 

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There is not such a big difference in price between neons and cardinals here in Portugal where I live and if I buy them in a larger quantity I think I can get a good price. My original plan for this tank was a reef tank so the price of 100 cardinals will be a lot less than the set up cost and matenance for a reef would have been (that is my justification anyway!) :wink:

People keep telling me to put other fish in the tank but basically I just want one type of tetra in the tank because I think tetras in a large school look fantastic and it is not something people do often. And I have had a soft spot for neons/ cardinals since I was a little girl but I have never kept them. I have compromised and decided to keep a school of corries in there too. Ottos might be good for clean up but I'm afraid they don't do much for me (please don't lynch me otto lovers :D ) and I don't mind putting up with a bit green in the tank.

I still like to hear other peoples thoughts though, and you never know you might convince me I can't do without some fish or other. I wouldn't mind a school of zebra plecos..... now that's pricey!!
 
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