[1hitu]

hi i have jst bought my first tank and im not sure how big it is and i bought 8 fish 1 angelfish and 3 small goldfish (they r supposed to grow ) and 4 fishes idk their name they r always small with silver color and with a line of a color either blue , yellow , green , pink , dark blue or red .

but those silver fish keep on fin nipping my angel fish and she's always swimming at the top of the tank at corner when the tank's light are on what am i supposed to do get another angelfish for it to have company or what idk tbh .


and i wanted to know how long does it take take a goldfish to grow ?

 

[djembekah]

Welcome to TFK!

Can you try and find out how big your tank is? That's really important. Also, try finding out what kind of fish those silver fish are. Without that info, I can't really give you advice on them.

Unfortunately I have bad news. Angelfish cant really be kept as singles. Angelfish are shoaling fish, and that means they need to be kept in a group. Also, they need to be kept in quite large tanks in order to be kept in a group. 55 gallons or bigger for a group of 5-6. bigger tanks will allow you to keep more angels.

Another problem in your tank is the goldfish/angelfish combination. Angelfish are tropical, and therefore need water between like 72 and 78 degrees. Most goldfish need cooler water. Fancy goldfish need a little bit warmer water than comet and common goldfish. But I'm guessing your goldfish were from the feeder tank, and that would make them common or comet goldfish.

Goldfish also need quite large tanks. Common and comet goldfish need a lot of room- around 45-55 gallons per fish, and are usually regarded as pond fish for that reason. Even the smallest fancy goldfish, though, need 20 gallons per fish, with 10 gallons more for each additional individual. Some fancies require even more space than that due to size.

Goldfish can grow very fast when in a proper tank, and with proper food.

Hopefully we can straighten out your situation, and again, welcome to the forum!

 

[SeaHorse]

Hi 1hitu. Welcome to TFK.
Can you tell us the length x width x height? We'll tell you what size your tank is and we can go from there.

 

[ZivaD]

Welcome to TFK!

Can you try and find out how big your tank is? That's really important. Also, try finding out what kind of fish those silver fish are. Without that info, I can't really give you advice on them.

Unfortunately I have bad news. Angelfish cant really be kept as singles. Angelfish are shoaling fish, and that means they need to be kept in a group. Also, they need to be kept in quite large tanks in order to be kept in a group. 55 gallons or bigger for a group of 5-6. bigger tanks will allow you to keep more angels.

Another problem in your tank is the goldfish/angelfish combination. Angelfish are tropical, and therefore need water between like 72 and 78 degrees. Most goldfish need cooler water. Fancy goldfish need a little bit warmer water than comet and common goldfish. But I'm guessing your goldfish were from the feeder tank, and that would make them common or comet goldfish.

Goldfish also need quite large tanks. Common and comet goldfish need a lot of room- around 45-55 gallons per fish, and are usually regarded as pond fish for that reason. Even the smallest fancy goldfish, though, need 20 gallons per fish, with 10 gallons more for each additional individual. Some fancies require even more space than that due to size.

Goldfish can grow very fast when in a proper tank, and with proper food.

Hopefully we can straighten out your situation, and again, welcome to the forum!

This hit on most of my thoughts - to find the size of your tank, if you can provide the dimensions and shape of your tank we can help you calculate the volume of it.

One concern I have that I have not seen mentioned yet is that you say you "just bought" your new tank - did you purchase, set up and add fish immediately or did you go through the cycling process to establish a healthy bacteria population? This is especially concerning to me as you have some very "dirty" (heavy bio-load) fish in your goldfish.
Ultimately, the population you have now is incompatible even without knowing what the other fish are (though determining that is important - posting pictures here might help).
This is a really exciting hobby and it's all too easy to jump in headfirst and get a little sideways at first. I would suggest taking a couple of steps back.
Have you tested your water to determine the base water conditions you have available for fish? (PH, hardness, etc) That will factor into what types of fish are best suited for you to choose from. Then you can start working through that list of fish to find those that fit the tank size you have to offer, are compatible with each other (same temperature range, complimentary activity level, etc) and are most interesting to you. If you did not cycle the tank before adding fish this is a great time to return/rehome the fish you have, start the cycling process and spend the weeks of cycling doing the above work so that when you are ready to start adding fish you will have all the "homework" done.

 

[MoneyMitch]

there are quite a few unknowns that need to be figured here and many issues that I can see from the info you have provided already. first thing is I would try to get the angel into a different tank or try to take back. you can read more on them in the fish profiles section at the top of the page to see why I suggest moving it out.

there are also some pinned topics in the freshwater aquarium section that would aid you with gaining a better understanding of how stocking and the cycle works. I might even suggest putting up a post there might get more attention for your questions/issues.

here are the direct links to the pinned topics

http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/...inners-guide-freshwater-aquarium-cycle-38617/
http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/freshwater-aquarium/basic-guide-freshwater-fish-stocking-38626/

P.S Welcome to the forum!!

 

[1hitu]

well i asked the guy that sold me the tank he said that its 40 liters and i gave back the silver fish and i got 1 more angelfish and 2 cleanfish ( fish that cleans the tank ) and 2 good looking fish i wanna knw how to find out their names , im kindda lost and im trying to build a good community in my tank


i can upload a picture of my tank if u need it to help me

 

[djembekah]

40 liters is still far to small for the fish you have :/

 

[1hitu]

This hit on most of my thoughts - to find the size of your tank, if you can provide the dimensions and shape of your tank we can help you calculate the volume of it.

One concern I have that I have not seen mentioned yet is that you say you "just bought" your new tank - did you purchase, set up and add fish immediately or did you go through the cycling process to establish a healthy bacteria population? This is especially concerning to me as you have some very "dirty" (heavy bio-load) fish in your goldfish.
Ultimately, the population you have now is incompatible even without knowing what the other fish are (though determining that is important - posting pictures here might help).
This is a really exciting hobby and it's all too easy to jump in headfirst and get a little sideways at first. I would suggest taking a couple of steps back.
Have you tested your water to determine the base water conditions you have available for fish? (PH, hardness, etc) That will factor into what types of fish are best suited for you to choose from. Then you can start working through that list of fish to find those that fit the tank size you have to offer, are compatible with each other (same temperature range, complimentary activity level, etc) and are most interesting to you. If you did not cycle the tank before adding fish this is a great time to return/rehome the fish you have, start the cycling process and spend the weeks of cycling doing the above work so that when you are ready to start adding fish you will have all the "homework" done.

well i asked the pet store he told me to put in drinking water and an anti-clorine to it and turn on the filter for 15 mins before adding the fish and then i added my fish if you can tell me wut to do i would appreciate it

 

[1hitu]

40 liters is still far to small for the fish you have :/

what am i supposed to do ?

and the gold fish i have is pretty small

 

[djembekah]

These fish all grow. The angelfish will either kill each other as they grow, or they'll become a pair (and that's only if they're male/female, and if they get along). If they're a pair, they'll need about 30 gallons (about 114 liters), and if they aren't, well, they'll need a 55 gallon tank (about 208 liters) and more angelfish to keep the aggression spread around.

Like I said with the goldfish, they're going to get very large, ALTHOUGH: they will stay stunted in a tank like that. the bad news about that is that their organs keep growing, and this severely injures the fish and eventually kills them. I'd return or rehome the little guys into a pond.

 

[1hitu]

These fish all grow. The angelfish will either kill each other as they grow, or they'll become a pair (and that's only if they're male/female, and if they get along). If they're a pair, they'll need about 30 gallons (about 114 liters), and if they aren't, well, they'll need a 55 gallon tank (about 208 liters) and more angelfish to keep the aggression spread around.

Like I said with the goldfish, they're going to get very large, ALTHOUGH: they will stay stunted in a tank like that. the bad news about that is that their organs keep growing, and this severely injures the fish and eventually kills them. I'd return or rehome the little guys into a pond.

what kind of fish can i keep in my tank ? and how many ?


i would like to have an active tank until i upgrade into a bigger one

 

[1hitu]

and im kind of frustrated about what goes with each other and what doesnt

 

[djembekah]

if you take a look at the fish profiles, there's a link at the top of the page, you can usually figure out pretty well what fish goes with what.

Ten gallons is kind of small for most fish. Unfortunately, pet stores give a lot of wrong information, and it causes our fish to suffer a lot.

Personally, in a ten gallon (depending on water hardness and such) i'd put a betta, and some bottom feeders like otos or dwarf cories. You could also do guppies or platies, I believe. There are other options too, I just don't know them all.

 

[1hitu]

if you take a look at the fish profiles, there's a link at the top of the page, you can usually figure out pretty well what fish goes with what.

Ten gallons is kind of small for most fish. Unfortunately, pet stores give a lot of wrong information, and it causes our fish to suffer a lot.

Personally, in a ten gallon (depending on water hardness and such) i'd put a betta, and some bottom feeders like otos or dwarf cories. You could also do guppies or platies, I believe. There are other options too, I just don't know them all.

what about the number ? like how many fish am i supposed to have in my 10 g tank

 

[djembekah]

Honestly (and i agree frustratingly) there's no set number for fish in a tank.after you pick fish suited to the tank size, then you can fins out how many will fit

I'm not trying to be mean or discourage you i promise. i just kniw you probably want the healthiest tank you can have.

 

[1hitu]

well i have just bought a new 50 gallon tank and im gonna get 3 more angelfish tomorrow

and with the 10 gallon tank i have im planning to make a school fish in it wut do u think ""?

 

[SeaHorse]

Well you can keep it for a quarantine tank or for babies that appear... or a Betta for sure.

 

[1hitu]

how many type of schooling fish is there that can live together ?

 

[earthgirl]

Hi ihitu, welcome to this group. You're in the right place to get some help. I would urge you not to buy any more fish until you straighten out your current situation.

1. Read up on "cycling a tank." This is the process of building up healthy bacteria in your tank that will help break down fish pee. If you go on the home page of this site, then click Freshwater Fish and Aquariums, there is a "sticky" entitled A Beginner's Guide to the Freshwater Aquarium Cycle. I know none of us likes to spend a lot of time reading before we start something, but you will probably save some of your fish from dying if you learn as much as you can.

2. Check here with some of the experts before you add any more fish - they probably know more than the person who's selling you fish.

3. Really read up on the fish profiles of the ones you have. Angelfish are not typically considered beginner fish, so you will need to do some research to figure out how to best handle them.

I love fishkeeping and I started when I was a kid. You did a smart thing coming here so keep asking questions and good luck!

 

[earthgirl]

A ten gallon tank isn't very big for schooling fish. They like to do a lot of horizontal movement so moving back and forth across a 10 gal tank doesn't give them much room. The person who suggested a betta and some bottom-feeders for your 10 gal had a good idea.

I think the reason people hesitate to tell you an exact number of how many fish you can have is because it depends on the fish. A tank that could accommodate 10 guppies,for example, cannot hold 10 angelfish.

Can you tell us now what fish you have in which tank?