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i just wanted to know when i get ready to plant my stem plants what should i use first, the root tabs or the liquid ferts. I have gravel in the tank and i was'nt sure which one i could use first, i also have two anubias plants in the tank any advice would be much appreciated.:)
 

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With just stems and anubias you could get away with just using liquid fertilizer and be alright. When you add heavy root feeders such as crypts and swords you need to use both root tabs and liquid.
 

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Presumably this is a low-tech or natural method planted tank, with no CO2 diffusion and not high light. So a basic complete liquid fertilizer will suffice.

All nutrients plants need will occur naturally in a balanced tank, but the level of some may not be sufficient. Some nutrients, particularly the "hard" minerals, occur in tap water so regular weekly water changes replenish these. But the faster-growing plants, such as stem plants and floating plants, do need more nutrition because they are faster growing. A liquid comprehensive supplement provides this.

Many of us here use Seachem's Flourish Comprehensive Supplement for the Planted Aquarium. It takes very little; 1/2 teaspoon doses 30 gallons, and you only need to use it once or at most twice a week. Another near-identical product is Brightwell Aquatics' FlorinMulti. Whichever you get, make sure it is exactly the named product, as both manufacturers have several different products under these names "Flourish" and "Florin."

You won't need substrate tabs unless you have heavy-feeding substrate-rooted plants as Boredomb said.

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I have good success (and so do others) using Seachems Flourish Comprehensive supplement for a liquid fertilizer. Seachems also has a root tab that is good as well.

Another brand I heard that is good is Brightwells Aquatic Florinmulti for a liquid fertilizer. I have no clue of that product as it isn't available near me.
 

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as of right now I have a anubais nana a anubais afzelii and a anubais congensis all are attached to rocks around the middle of the tank I also just planted some anachris and they are in the back on the left hand side of the tank, I put three api root tabs around them and used some seachem flourish on all the plants. I was just wondering what would be a good fore-ground plant to use in a 10 gallon tank and another back ground plant to. I also replaced the lights that came with the tank and put in two G.E. energy smart day light 10 watt 6500k light bulbs for the plants, oh and one other thing I have a piece of anachris floating in the tank and wanted to know if it might start growing some roots soon its about two inches long and has been in the tank for about 4 days now thanks for all the help
 

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as of right now I have a anubais nana a anubais afzelii and a anubais congensis all are attached to rocks around the middle of the tank I also just planted some anachris and they are in the back on the left hand side of the tank, I put three api root tabs around them and used some seachem flourish on all the plants. I was just wondering what would be a good fore-ground plant to use in a 10 gallon tank and another back ground plant to. I also replaced the lights that came with the tank and put in two G.E. energy smart day light 10 watt 6500k light bulbs for the plants, oh and one other thing I have a piece of anachris floating in the tank and wanted to know if it might start growing some roots soon its about two inches long and has been in the tank for about 4 days now thanks for all the help
A good smaller plant for your 10g with the light you have would be pygmy chain sword. Check it out in our profiles. Crypts are another type, though these can be fussy, a few species are in the profiles.

Stem plants left floating will develop roots from the nodes along the stems. They can be left floating.
 

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I have Dwarf Sagittaria in the front of my 10 gallon it pretty similar to Pygmy chain sword through. In my 29 I also have Crypt Nevilli.
 

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with the lights I have right now how many hours should I run them with the plants I have now.
 

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with the lights I have right now how many hours should I run them with the plants I have now.
You want to find the balance between light (intensity then duration) and nutrients, and this varies with each aquarium due to the fish load, feeding, plants, etc.

For m,y 10g with identical lights, I run them 8 hours. Flourish Comp dosed once a week. I have never had algae in this tank, interestingly, except when it was in the window as an experiment before I put the light over it.

Use a timer, and you can have the "day" period anytime when you are normally home to view the tank. As long as the tank gets a good period of complete darkness, you're OK.
 

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how effective are root tabs in a tank with gravel, I was just wondering because I followed the instructions and it said to insert half way into bed and I was wondering if I should have put them closer to the roots, some of the tabs are on the other side of the plant( anachris) also out of my three anubias plants one has a leaf that has some black spots on the edge and the other plant has part of the root that is kinda see through and just flowing around where as the rest of the roots look real strong and are a nice green color like the rest of the plant and Im not sure if I should cut that part off or just leave it, its only doing that about half way down the root and the other half is green. I used about 1/2 tsp of seachem flourish today
 

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how effective are root tabs in a tank with gravel, I was just wondering because I followed the instructions and it said to insert half way into bed and I was wondering if I should have put them closer to the roots, some of the tabs are on the other side of the plant( anachris) also out of my three anubias plants one has a leaf that has some black spots on the edge and the other plant has part of the root that is kinda see through and just flowing around where as the rest of the roots look real strong and are a nice green color like the rest of the plant and Im not sure if I should cut that part off or just leave it, its only doing that about half way down the root and the other half is green. I used about 1/2 tsp of seachem flourish today
You won't see much benefit from root tabs with Anacharis. The liquid Flourish Comp will be best. I only use substrate tabs with large sword plants and my Tiger Lorus, both of which are heavy root feeders, and I insert a tab about 1-2 inches from the plant.

On the Anubias, can you post a photo, as I'm not sure what you're asking about the roots. The rhizome must not be buried; Anubias is best azttached to a piece of wood or rock.

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I dosed my plants with flourish wensday morning and I was wondering what would be a good schedule between using flourish and water changes and Im thinking about taking out the gravel in my tank and I wanted to know what would be the best kind of substrate to use. Thank you for all the help.
 

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I dosed my plants with flourish wensday morning and I was wondering what would be a good schedule between using flourish and water changes and Im thinking about taking out the gravel in my tank and I wanted to know what would be the best kind of substrate to use. Thank you for all the help.
The water change should be done weekly, on the same day, example every Sunday or something. Then dose Flourish Comp the following morning.

On the substrate, what fish are in this tank, or intended? Some are best with sand, some could have fine gravel. Plants are fine in either. I have switched all but one of my tanks over from fine gravel to sand. I use Quikrete Play Sand as it is not rough, and it looks like the sand in the Amazon so it is authentic. My substrate fish like corys seem to love it.
 

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I was just wondering whats causing my anachris and moss ball to turn brown, I dose with flourish once a week and the anachris is planted but I read that it needs to be anchored down I guess that means not planted. The lights are turned on at 7:00 am and stay on until 3:00 pm im running two 10 watt energy smart day light 6500k cfl bulbs in the 10g tank and I was just curious if I need to up the dosage on the flourish or cut back the duration on the lights thanks for the help and advice that everyone has been given me
 

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I was just wondering whats causing my anachris and moss ball to turn brown, I dose with flourish once a week and the anachris is planted but I read that it needs to be anchored down I guess that means not planted. The lights are turned on at 7:00 am and stay on until 3:00 pm im running two 10 watt energy smart day light 6500k cfl bulbs in the 10g tank and I was just curious if I need to up the dosage on the flourish or cut back the duration on the lights thanks for the help and advice that everyone has been given me
It is likely the temperature. This stem plant does best in temperate water, i.e., room temperature, not tropical. This is why it is so useful in goldfish tanks.
 

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I have this plant planted in the substrate and it does fine but I have noticed it does do better in temperate tanks as Byron has mentioned already. In my "cooler" tanks it thrives but in my puffer tank which is about 78° it doesn't do to good.
 

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that would explain the browness on the plant I don't have a heater or a thermometer in the tank yet but the water is kind of warm so in a 10g gravel tank what would be a good background plant to have.
 

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that would explain the browness on the plant I don't have a heater or a thermometer in the tank yet but the water is kind of warm so in a 10g gravel tank what would be a good background plant to have.
If you have moderately hard or harder water, Vallisneria (the "corkscrew" variety) is good. In softer water (Vall does not do well in soft water) chain sword or pygmy chain sword work, or for a stem plant Pennywort.
 
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