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:wave: Does anyone here have puffers or other brackish fish/tank
 

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I used to have brackish water tank with spotted puffer, archer fish, and mono sabae. I had the tank running for about a year. Setting up a tank for water changes, adding salt to make sure the salinity was the same, was a pain though, which is one of the reason why I stopped. Plus I had other ideas for the tank. Did you have a question in mind?
 

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I was more or less just wondering if anyone on here has puffers. I ordered f8's and gsp came in so I'm just trying to find out how they differ and some basic information to try to fill in the gaps. I have read and read but hearing or reading other peoples experiences helps a lot so thought I would ask :) .
 

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for feeding give them something with a shell off and on. puffers like to crack through the shells for food. things like snails and crabs. i think all puffers (not sure) but most the teeth will keep growing like a beavers so if you don't give them food like that their teeth will eventually overlap and they will no longer be able to eat at all causing them to starve.
 

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:wave: Do you have a brackish tank or puffers? I'm trying to raise snails for my gsp's. Right now I'm treating them for the IP's they had when I received them on Friday
 

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i don't have one but i know people that do and there are a bunch of brackish fish where i work so i've learn a decent amount about them.
 

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i have a brackish tank recently set up with a gsp and a freshwater moray eel. with the puffer i read ur supposed to feed him until his belly gets round and fat then he's had enough. I feed mine snails, frozen krill, and i toss a live cricket in every now and again (i have them on hand for my lizard) and he really like them...he eats head first then the body. they are very smart hunters, they swim around their prey, swimming close then making like they're not interested, then wham. also if u see them swimming up and down the glass alot it prob means they're bored. they like things to swim through and around. it's even good to rearrange ur design from time to time to give them new things to explore.
 

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:wave: Wow finally someone with not only a brackish tank but a gsp :blink: Yes their little belly’s should be round after eating however they should never have a flat or sunken belly that is one of the signs of IP's. I started with 2-F8's as my first puffers but I lost them when they arrived sick and me not knowing enough about puffers to help them. We now have a gsp and he is healthy, happy and we are having so much fun watching him. I've thought of trying crickets for my Oscars but hadn’t thought of them for my gsp. Ours loves blood worms he won't eat them when we first put them in but loves to hunt and stock them before he pounces and eats them we also feed krill, plankton, shrimp & snails. I started raising snails about a month ago. How long have you had yours and do you have the eel in the same tank??
 

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i can't remember how long we've had our puffer, not to long. the eel is in the same tank and he seems more scared of the puffer then the puffer is of him. he's not to big tho that will change and he'll need bigger tank. when i went to get a puffer i thought they only had f8's but i was happily surprised to see the gsp and grabbed him.i also read that they are sensitive to ammonia and nitites and nitrates too. i keep my specific gravity at about 1.005-1.006 right now but will increase it as he gets older, he's pretty young right now

this is pic of my little puffer and the other one is the eel in his home...my husband thought a skull was an appropriate home for a moray :roll:
 

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Nice pictures :) I've been trying to get a picture of gizmo but so far no luck. I don't know much about moray's so did some reading quite the combanation, from what I've read he needs high brackish to marine, is going to get really big :shock: and is also quite the hunter. I think I would be afraid one morining one or the other would be toast :lol: but must say he is a cutie I know my hubby would like him so I'm not showing him the picture :lol: about how many inches is your gsp, eel?
 

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i would say the puffer is a little under 2 inches and the eelis about 9 inches. i'm not really sure about long term tank mates because of tthe eel mostly. what will prob have to happen is us get him into marine and set up a big salt water. we only have a 5.5g salt now and he's definitly not fitting there! :lol: we got the eel first and the guy told us he's freshwater but on doing research he's obviously not. i think they have babies in mostly fw and then move to the sea. but since we had to set up a brackish tank it was a good reason to get a puffer. i'm sure we'll have to start getting stuff for a big sw tank soon. we could never afford it all at once so we'll by pieces at a time until we have enough to set it up and then get live rock. so the puffer will prob end up having the tank to himself, we're just keeping an eye on them both for now. they just ignore each other mostly, the worst i saw was at first at the first feeding time the puffer took a snap at the eel, the eel took a snap at the puffer, then the puffer darted in and nipped him and the eel ran away :eek: now they can swim right by each other and don't care. i just try to put food in both sides of the tank just in case. the eel was actually quite ceap. eels around here are very expensive but he was only 14 or 18 i can't remember. i was surprised.
 

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The gsp's looks are very misleading they tend to get more aggressive as they get older :shock: I don't know about the eel but you'll need to choose carefully any tank mates for your gsp they don't call them little killers for no reason :lol: as they get older they don’t usually even like there own kind. I know a few say you can have 1 gsp in a 15 gal but most recommend 30 gal or 55 for 2. I don't know where you are but I bought my first 30 gal new but my other 3 tanks I have bought used with every thing in them and wood stands to boot, the most I paid was for one of the 55 gal it was 100.00 but the other 55 & the 30 were under 75.00 each. Some people go out and buy the works and then realize how much work keeping fish is and just want to get rid of them so they sell them cheap mine needed a good scrub but for that price I didn’t mind.
 

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i watch the papers around here alot for ads for fish tanks, they come up rarely and when they do they're usually quite small. Awhile ago my Mom told me her friends neighbor gave away a 100g because the fish in it had finally died (prob an oscar) and she didn't want another, plus she gave away the big tanks she used to breed fish to feed the big guy. I almost died! I was like noooooooo! If only I could go back in time and tell Moms friend (cause he didn't know we were into fishies) that we loved fishies! i still cry myself to sleep over it :( we did get a 30g for 40. but it came with nothing and the cocking was in questionable shape. we traded it to a guy for his when we got his lizard.
 

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What did you use to treat the internal parasites of your gsp? I have 5 and one has recently started to take a turn for the worst. I know they are sensitive to certain things cuz of their skin and I am worried about what to treat him with?
 

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I had good luck with Parasite Clear Tank Buddies made by Jungle Lab It has Praziquantel in it and that is what you need to kill the internal parasites.
I took one tablet and cut the tablet in 1/8 and desolved 1/8 in a small amount of water a little bit of fresh cut Garlic and his food I used blood worms or dried krill I let it soak about an hour or so and then fed it to him. It does no good to treat your water you need him to eat the med. Be sure to use the garlic to soak the food in fish love garlic and it covers the med taste. I hope this is some help.
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Sorry I forgot I treated them 1 time a day for about 7 or 8 days
 
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