[gazza2006au]

i have a pretty big tank 360 litres or 95 gallons ive had 7 gold fish roughly 8-10cm and 3 small algie eaters roughly 4-5cm two days ago i bought 2 gold gourami's both are a little bigger than the gold fish the first day i put them into the tank they were fine getting along well with the gold fish swimming all around the tank now they are just sitting in one corner not moving much hiding behind a plant 24 hours a day and not eating much should i let them settle in longer or remove them from the tank and buy different fish?

 

[herefishy]

My guess, since you didn't elaborate on how the gouramis wera acting toward each other, is that the gourami that is hiding is not the alpha. The dominant fish may be exiling the less dominant to hide behind the plants. Have you notice any unusual behavior such as lack of eating, or aggressive behavior between the two gouramis? Are the any signs of disease or marks of aggression on the fish in hiding?

 

[gazza2006au]

both are eating very little if any.. one gourami was abit territorial towards the other and both of the gouramis are showing signs of being aggressive towards the gold fish and alot of touching with there wisker thingos and there are no marks they look good also when feeding they try to bolt off smashing into the glass :?

 

[Lupin]

Whisker thingies=ventral fins

 

[Weasel F.]

One thing is there both males or both female. The other thing is you have a tropical fish in with cold water spices. That's not going to work in the short run or long run. The gourmis have total differnt needs then the gold fish.

 

[gazza2006au]

there has been improvement in the tank i have 1 male 1 female gourami the female is getting along with the gold fish pretty well she comes out to play only when the gold fish are near by and once she sees someone walking or moving in the room she bolts back behind the plants the male just stays behind the plant 99% of the time but he is slowly doing circles around the front of the plant every now and again i will be buying more fish soon what would go well with what i have i can pick from the folowing
silver sharks
angle fish
silver gouramis
gold gouramis
clown loach
maybe a discus

 

[leifthebunny]

I would recommend against the Discus. They require higher water temps and tend to do better in species only tanks. I would also probably skip on the angelfish as well as they tend to not like overly active tanks or nippers and I've heard the gold gouramis can get a bit rough.

 

[gazza2006au]

i ended up going with 4 silver sharks and 4 black widows im about to introduce them to there new home

 

[Weasel F.]

Is it just me are M I the only one seeing that He's adding fish to a cold water tank. Either the gold fish are the tripicals need to be moved. They have totally differnt water requirments.

 

[gazza2006au]

as for the "cold water" im in australia tank temps vary from 23c-29c

 

[Weasel F.]

Gold fish are cold water spices. Is all I'm saying your adding tropical fish in with a fish that sould be in cold water not warm water. Not to mention the batria a cold fish carries. That's not good for warm water fish. In the long run your doing harm to the tropicals in with them.

 

[bettababy]

Weasel gave the best advice here... The mix of fish in this tank is horribly mismatched, and with the warmer temps, the goldfish are likely to experience many health problems. A goldfish's organs are not equipped to handle warmer water temps over a long period of time, and if it gets too warm, the damage can be fatal. A little bit at a time, their systems will shut down until the fish die. Also, warm water contains less oxygen, and goldfish are high consumers of oxygen.

How much decoration is in this tank? By silver shark, are you referring to bala sharks? http://badmanstropicalfish.com/richards/bala.jpeg

If this is what you added, be aware that these grow to 14 inches on average, and 4 of them in a 95 gallon tank won't last for more than about a year.
Black widows.... I'm not familiar with this common name... are these black skirt tetras? http://z.about.com/d/freshaquarium/1/0/m/G/fw0124.jpg

Can you post a picture of the tank and the fish? Knowing the specific species of fish, and also your water params (ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, and pH) would also help a lot. There are a number of possible causes for the way your fish have been acting, but you haven't posted nearly enough information for anyone to be of real help, other than to point out that the goldfish need cold water (63 - 65 degrees fahrenheit would be the warmest I would suggest for them). How long has this tank been set up? How often are you feeding the fish and what foods are you offering them? How often are you doing water changes?

 

[Lupin]

By silver shark, are you referring to bala sharks?
http://badmanstropicalfish.com/richards/bala.jpeg

That's what I also thought it was.

Black widows.... I'm not familiar with this common name... are these black skirt tetras?

Yes, Dawn. I was under the impression UKers call them black skirt tetras.

 

[gazza2006au]

ok i will try to catch the gold fish and give them to my neice if they are to hard and becomes a task to catch i will leave them i dont want to be chassing the goldies and making the other fish more scared
at this moment there are two bushy 16 inch plants i have 5 more plants 8-12 inch ariving next week
the silver shark is a bala shark and the black widow is the tetra u linked to
i cant post a picture of the tank at this moment dont have a camera and i havent tested ph,nitrate,nitrite,amonia with just the 7 small comet gold fish i was doing monthly 1/4-1/5th water changes as its a large tank 5 foot long 2 foot high 1.4 foot deep

 

[bettababy]

Water quality will still fluctuate, and the tank will still go thru cycling... so knowing your water params is very important.
Also, before you put too many plants into the tank, you should be aware that goldfish are vegetarian fish, and will eat most live plants... and they usually do this quickly.

 

[Weasel F.]

Thanks bettababy, I was begaining to wonder if i was the only one who seen the danger the tropics where in. gazza your tank will cycle the whole time it's up and running. From adding a new fish to removing a dead one. Adding a ne plant and removing one. The water changes from day to day. I have over 51 tanks from 250g to 5.5 betta tanks. this is my life right here

my fish room.

I have 35tanks with self water changers and I still after 8yrs in the makinbg check the water in 90% of them every week. My bettas are my love and life. So in order to get a good show one the water has to be keep just right. So you should always know what your water primes are.

 

[bettababy]

Awesome fish room weasel... looks like my husbands used to until I took it over, lol. I took him from 30+ tanks to 50+ tanks over a few months time... but I'm now in the process of moving it to my new house. I won't have as many, but they will all be larger tanks now.
I love the bettas too, am hoping to get back to breeding once we get settled a bit more. I'm also looking for discus options for my new 120.

 

[Weasel F.]

Thanks , I just go this one to the level I've been wanting about 6m ago. Good luck on the discus, the water in my area is just trash for them. I tred for a yr to keep 9 in a 200g. Man was that always a fun water chimister test for me. I lost more then I keep. So I finally said back to the bettas and Apistogrammas.