I like them due to the fact that they are a touch different colored than normal Ramerizi. They are missing some of the black coloration normally seen on them. They were listed as (Tangerine), but I believe they are just a different color morph. I kept these many years ago, then the Altispinosa became available, and I got into them for a while. Funny how fish that have been around forever suddenly interest you again.:lol: