Jay, Yeah I do get it back it just s*cked because I was really looking forward to getting them and especially being a for sure mated pair but guess I won't know if they were or not anymore. I paid 30 including shipping. Ive read reviews on them and they seem to have success with their fish but I have a feeling the time they sent it was the time when Houston got down to like 25 degrees then the next day it was back at 90 lol so I have a feeling the weather had to do a lot with it. Hopefully I am right on these two and they pair up. Gorgeous little fish.They say the female usually has a pinker belly so you could be right. Just my guess. I hope you got a refund from germanbluerams.com for the dead fish right?