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TR did you build a closed loop that hangs over the glass? A friend of mine built one like that but had problems with getting it started. He glued a TEE in place of the 90 that was below the water line. To one side he put a valve. On the other side of the valve he put a barbed fitting and some tubing. That way he could suck the water over the tank with the tubing. Once the suction was started he closed the valve.
 

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So I guess you didnt give up.
 

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I think i understandl, i could just leave the parts that are in the water unglued so i can take them off and suck the air out of it.
Ya mike(both) iv decided on some stuff. Im not doing a sump and im going to a furniture store soon and im gunna buy a nice stand for it and its going in my basement. Mike did you get my email? Its not inportant now though.
 
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