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I have a 29 (US) gal community tank, an 8 gal tank with african dwarf frogs and a male betta, and a 17 gal tank which currently has baby bettas in after my first betta breeding attempt. I am wanting to move the baby bettas into a breeding box so I can get some slightly more 'advanced' fish and eventually try to breed them.

My question is are there any cichlids I can keep in a 17 US gal tank? It has a Fluval U2 filter, a 50 watt heater, and lighting. I really like the ram cichlids but don't know much about them at the moment. I am going to start researching them but thought I would ask on here as well. What cichlids, if any, would I be able to keep in this tank? Preferably something I can eventually try to breed.
 

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Bukooblunt not all cichlids require a 50 gallon or more. Just the most common cichlids.
Ok yes you can it realy depends how well you keep your tank.
With that said you could keep a pair of Julidochromis Transcriptus. I wouldnt do any more then that tho.
I believe The are a African shell dweller cichlid not sure tho.
 

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Yep, dwarf shelldwellers would do fine, especially if the tank has a decent amount of floor space. Pretty much any other dwarf cichlid would work in that size tank, albeit probably not more than a pair for most of them. Apistogramma, kribensis, nannacara, rams, etc. I'd probably make the choice based on your water parameters more than anything else.
 

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+1 to batman.
I saw some really cute shellies at my LFS yesterday. Wish I had more room or another tank, I would have brought them home!
 

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Thanks guys. I really do like the rams and saw some in my LFS the other day. But would I be able to keep any other fish with them?
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Sure. Blue rams prefer higher water temperatures than many tropical fish so you have to be careful with what you pick. But in either case, peaceful schooling fish like tetras, rasboras, etc. should be just fine. If you're trying to breed them I'd avoid fish that will really actively try to go after the eggs/fry or other semi-aggressive fish (i.e. I wouldn't add a ram to a tank with a krib pair, for example).
 

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Thanks! I'm thinking a pair of kribs or rams, 5 or 6 tetras or rasboras, and would a small bottom dweller or two be ok as well? Do all cories like to be in shoals?
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Ive just had another thought; would a school of cherry barbs be ok with a pair of rams or kribs in the 17 gal? Cos I have a pair of cherries in my community tank and would really like to get them some friends! If not I could move the neon tetras out of the community tank into the 17 gal with the cichlids when I get them, and work on the cherry barbs in my community tank?
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Have you given dwarf puffers any thought? (instead of cichlids)

And I would be careful adding fish with cichlids... even nice friendly cichlids can get super aggressive during mating...
And neons might be a nice snack for cichlids... (they're so skinny, even a small cichlid of breeding age could slurp one like a spaghetti noodle.

IMO I'd just have cichlids as the only "fish" in the tank. Many algae eaters with nocturnal tendencies would eat the eggs while the protective parents are asleep...

Maybe something like CPOs could work...
 

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Aww that's a shame the neons and cichlids would have looked really nice together! I have actually thought about dwarf puffers but I read they can be very aggressive. What are CPOs?
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Cherry barbs would probably be ok. Corydoras do like to live in shoals. In a 17g, you could probably have the pair of kribensis, 4-5 corydoras and a school of 6 or so smallish (though I agree not too small - something like neons might get eaten by kribs) tetras, barbs, rasboras, etc.
 

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Well I went completely off track and ended up getting a ruby shark lol. I have put my 5 golden cloud White mountain minnows and a female betta in with him, they are fine so far but I plan to keep a close eye on them!
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dwarf cichlids would work...it has been my personal experience with pelvicachromis taeniatus (close cousin to kribs) and with nannacara anomola (golden dwarfs) that they do not like corys all that much. they will chase them around and do not like other fish occupying the bottom of the tank with them.

also, if they spawn they will likely get very nasty and you may be forced to relocate some fish. if it were me i would probably just have a pair and try to breed them. if you wanted some others, i would avoid bottom-dwellers and maybe go with a schooling fish like danios or cardinal tetras
 

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when i posted i didnt see that you had added a ruby shark. i have always known them as rainbow sharks, but it is the same thing. anyway, i think you will have trouble with one of those in a 17-gallon. they usually require 50 gallons+. it will probably get nasty with any other fish you add to that tank. i would take it back before it kills your betta
 

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Hey thanks for the comments. I am currently saving up for around a 60 gal (another thread) which will house the ruby shark in the next few months. He is very small at the moment and I plan to put any fish he starts harrassing back into my community tank (29 gal).
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