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4 hours of uninterrupted sleep! This is the most sleep that I have had since this whole nightmare began. Last night I was a bad mom and instead of bothering to even try the kennel, I let him loose in my room. I hoped that he would sleep on his own dog bed which is right next to my bed. He did lay down there for about an hour but then I could hear him doing circles and feel the bed getting slammed by his body every few minutes. I was afraid he would hurt himself or break my bed so I helped him up onto my bed where we both passed out cold for 4 beautiful hours. I am beginning to think this whole thing is a ploy to gain "bed rights." I feel that through this whole thing I have aged 10 years but know that in part that is just the total lack of sleep. I feel somewhat better today with my lovely 4 hours of uninterrupted sleep. What a glorious thing sleep is when you have not had any.

The doctor said one of the major causes of seizures is head injuries and though I know he didn't have a head injury before, I can't say he doesn't now. He walks or flip flops about like a brand new foal (baby horse) in the first few minutes up on it's legs. He makes he way through the house by slamming head first into walls, furniture or flat out onto the floor. My house is tile and hardwood so he doesn't have the best footing to start. I am constantly trying to keep him calm and remind him to walk but he is so out of sorts that he basically lunges and falls and repeats. This morning after our beautiful 4 hours, It took me about 5 minutes to get him off the bed and get his legs under him again. Once there, they stayed there for about 15 seconds and he flopped down again. We repeated this exercise all the way to the kitchen for breakfast where I faithfully held his back legs under him while he gulped down his food in an uncharacteristic way of eating for him. I then TRIED to help him down the stairs (6) to go outside to potty. Basically he slid down the stairs on his belly and then galloped out the door. Upon his re-entrance to the house, he tried galloping up the steps and then did a head slam into the kitchen table, spun around twice and landed like Bambi on Ice with all 4 legs in a different direction. He MUST have dark, deep bruises all over every inch of his body and head and muscle tears. He must be in horrid pain.

On an upside, his cognitive abilities seem to be improving a little. I tell him "sit" and he flops down to a sit, I tell him "down" and he falls onto his belly. I pushed it and told him "high 5" which he promptly did and then flipped over backwards. We won't be doing that one again for awhile. I honestly do not know how I am going to continue this as he requires 100% of my time. Even before the seizures he would have been quite happy to have 100% of my time but now he is even more needy. It is almost impossible to get any time to do anything so my house is trashed. Yesterday out of desperation I spread dog food all over the floor in 3 rooms to keep him wandering around eating and keep him busy. Oliver helped clean that up and Carsten moved furniture, flipped over my coffee table and antique phonograph in an effort to find pieces of food that do not exist. I played clean up after that while he followed me around whining for more help that I do not know how to give.

I certainly hope that his physical functions can come back soon, my back and knees are killing me. My next dog will NEVER be on the bed. I am just going to go out there and say no matter what, NO MORE DOGS ON THE BED after these two. I need to get a different house where I can have a dog screaming in a kennel 10 rooms away and will still be able to sleep comfortably without hearing them. Ahh, a girl can dream, right?
 

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Inga, I'm so sorry for you and Cartsen. My thoughts are with you both. What a terrible thing to go through. You are doing what you can to make him comfortable and let him know you are there. Making a decision to euthanize is so painful, I know.

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Inga, I'm so sorry for you and Cartsen. My thoughts are with you both. What a terrible thing to go through. You are doing what you can to make him comfortable and let him know you are there. Making a decision to euthanize is so painful, I know.

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Especially when the dog is only 4 1/2 years old and was the picture of health just days before. He just got reserve winners dog at a dog show the weekend before last. He was perfect. I just feel so helpless.
 

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I can relate about saying "no more" with a "new" dog. Our rottie begs like crazy, because I feed him scraps after we eat. Driving me nuts! My next dog, won't get leftovers! Our smaller dog is also now a beggar, but she's not so annoying, I guess because of her size.

Here's a pic of my Rottie soon after we got him from a breed rescue. From a shelter, never claimed, about 5 years old. He's about 10 or 11 now. Great dog! Keep us posted on Carsten!

I've always heard seizures involve a dog urinating. Did this happen? Is a brain tumor been ruled out? An anurisum? What about an x-ray to check?

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Gwen that is a lovely boy you have there. Looks like a good ambassador for his breed too.

No X-rays or CT scans have been done as of yet. I did want to do that but my vet feels I should wait a few more days to let the medication balance out and his motor function to improve to the point he can at least walk without falling over. He isn't even able to hold his head up without it waving back and forth some. SAD!!!

The first seizure he had, as it was ending he did urinate some. Not a huge amount maybe a puddle about 6 inches around. I cleaned it up quickly as he seemed embarrassed by it. I have also heard they can express their anal glands or have a bowel movement. He did neither of those joyful things, thankfully.

My boy is an Angel dog too


This was at a public event where he was an exhibition dog, he had never bet this child but allowed her to pull his ears and crawl all over him


working with handicapped during therapy visit


He was brought up with so much love and he gives it back


Home from the hospital only an hour and baby met his new best friend Carsten
 

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Gorgeous boy! Oh, I hope this all works out for you both. I had my last rottie certified as a therapy dog, but he didn't dig it that much and than I tried the "read to the dogs" program for kids at the library, but he really hated sitting there listening to a kid read. We died of problems related to cushings disease at 9 years of age. We got him out of South Central Los Angeles, found on the streets at about 8 months of age, where he had clearly been abused and or terribly neglected. He had a great life with us, and was a lucky boy. Thanks for sharing your wonderful pictures :)

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What wonderful pictures! What a wonderful boy! He has such a beautiful heart.

To help him get around and to help your back, you can put a towel low under his abdomen, right in front of his rear legs, in a U shape, then hold the two upper end of the towel as he walks. This might help some.

Does he have something called "nystagmus"? It is involuntary, rhythmic motions of eyes. Its usually side to side, but can be up and down or rotary. Does he have that?
 

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What wonderful pictures! What a wonderful boy! He has such a beautiful heart.

To help him get around and to help your back, you can put a towel low under his abdomen, right in front of his rear legs, in a U shape, then hold the two upper end of the towel as he walks. This might help some.

Does he have something called "nystagmus"? It is involuntary, rhythmic motions of eyes. Its usually side to side, but can be up and down or rotary. Does he have that?

No, his eyes seem to be able to focus. I do use a sling under his abdomen but is flat out dangerous for me to do so on the stairs as once he starts moving, I can't hold him and he almost took us both down the stairs a few times. I can't end up with a broken back over this so I am doing all I can but sadly, it isn't a 100% perfect solution. I need a different house with out stairs. :-(
 

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Last night Carsten slept until 3:00 am before needing to come into bed with me. That was huge progress from the night before. Sadly this morning it was the same difficulty moving his back legs or balancing. He seems a little more clear and even though it takes awhile for him to understand a command and follow it, he is trying. I can tell my little boy is in there fighting to come out. I hope he wins the battle. He is such an obedient dog usually. He is trying so hard. He sits and downs now but there is always that few seconds delay while his brain tells his body to do it. Still sad to watch.
 

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You know, if he were human, I'd say he's showing the after affects of a stroke?

--Gina
I had that thought as well but the vet insists it is the meds. He keep saying "give his body time to adjust to the new dose"

I always think of Carsten as a little boy. Watching this is like seeing him alone in a dark room, terrified and not able to get out. He can sometimes hear my voice in the distance and tries to run to it but can't make it out of the dark room. I keep talking to him to reassure him, I am here and I am waiting for him to come back to me. It is truly heartbreaking. It does seem to be getting a little better but there is so many miles to go to be close to normal.
 

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If its any consolation, dogs and cats rarely have true strokes. Usually when they show signs of a stroke, its due to vestibular disease. But Carsten doesn't have nystagmus, so I think that's ruled out.
 

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Well, a small celebration. Last night, I cut his meds in half pr. vet suggestion. Last night Carsten slept through the night so that is a small victory. Now, hopefully he doesn't begin to seize again. I have 3 more 1/2 doses to give now before he goes back to a full pill 2 times daily. I am just sick thinking he could seize again. Maybe one gets used to such a thing but seeing him do that for so long was too much for me. I do not every want to see it again. My poor little boy.

So far this morning he seems slightly more normal too. Hopefully cutting the meds back for 2 days will get him back on track physically. It snowed last night so of course, that poses a bit more of a challenging for a dog with slippery feet. He seemed happy to walk about in it though. Probably good for his mind since we have been basically shut ins for the past 6 days.
 

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Thank you

This morning I was up at 2:30 am to start getting ready for work but doing it slowly so as to not freak Carsten out. This morning he seems to be doing better at the lower dose of medicine now... Just please don't let him have a seizure. I will have him in the kennel while I am at work. From now on I guess as I don't want to risk him having a seizure while I am at work and hurting himself in the process. Not to mention the other pets getting hurt.

I will be scared to death while at work these next few days, please keep Carsten in your prayers. If I get through this without a bleeding ulcer it will be a miracle.
Tonight he goes back on his larger dose (per vet instructions) and I feel slightly better knowing the seizures will hopefully be held at bay.
 

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Thank you

This morning I was up at 2:30 am to start getting ready for work but doing it slowly so as to not freak Carsten out. This morning he seems to be doing better at the lower dose of medicine now... Just please don't let him have a seizure. I will have him in the kennel while I am at work. From now on I guess as I don't want to risk him having a seizure while I am at work and hurting himself in the process. Not to mention the other pets getting hurt.

I will be scared to death while at work these next few days, please keep Carsten in your prayers. If I get through this without a bleeding ulcer it will be a miracle.
Tonight he goes back on his larger dose (per vet instructions) and I feel slightly better knowing the seizures will hopefully be held at bay.

Wow, you go to work early. He's in my thoughts and prayers. Poor big guy :(

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Wow, you go to work early. He's in my thoughts and prayers. Poor big guy :(

Gwen
I do, and that is NOT a good thing. ha ha I lost my job a year and a half ago and had to settle for this job because it keeps my insurance. I have a history of Cancer and am single so I can't take a chance of losing that. I guess we do what we have to in this world. I HATE the sound of the alarm clock but...

I was sick to my stomach the bulk of the day today wondering what was going on at home but was thrilled to come home and hear both boys howling their hello as they always do when they hear me coming home. Carsten was in his kennel but seemed no worse for wear. Today he is working back UP on his dosage but the two days of smaller dose has helped considerably. He isn't 100 percent but it has improved a lot. I am thankful for that.
 

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I do, and that is NOT a good thing. ha ha I lost my job a year and a half ago and had to settle for this job because it keeps my insurance. I have a history of Cancer and am single so I can't take a chance of losing that. I guess we do what we have to in this world. I HATE the sound of the alarm clock but...

I was sick to my stomach the bulk of the day today wondering what was going on at home but was thrilled to come home and hear both boys howling their hello as they always do when they hear me coming home. Carsten was in his kennel but seemed no worse for wear. Today he is working back UP on his dosage but the two days of smaller dose has helped considerably. He isn't 100 percent but it has improved a lot. I am thankful for that.
Fantastic!:-D
 
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