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I have called a number of stores in my area (LA/Orange County) and NONE have Blue Rams.

The best answer I get is "maybe in the future" or "you can special order them".

Seems odd for such a nice looking fish. Are these just not as popular as I would think?

I have found 1 store that has Bolivian Rams, but not Blue. (want to find a friend or two for my Discus)

Of course, keep in mind that out of the 30 stores I have called, they were only tropical fish stores (no Petco's Petsmarts, etc)...

What's the deal?

Anyone in the area know where to get some nice specimens?

Thanks.
 

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You could order them online if you want them that bad....
(lol...it's the opposite for me...Nobody carrys Bolivian Rams and EVERYONE carrys Blue Rams.)
 

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Elahrairah said:
I have called a number of stores in my area (LA/Orange County) and NONE have Blue Rams.

The best answer I get is "maybe in the future" or "you can special order them".

Seems odd for such a nice looking fish. Are these just not as popular as I would think?

I have found 1 store that has Bolivian Rams, but not Blue. (want to find a friend or two for my Discus)

Of course, keep in mind that out of the 30 stores I have called, they were only tropical fish stores (no Petco's Petsmarts, etc)...

What's the deal?

Anyone in the area know where to get some nice specimens?

Thanks.
they are very popular fish, thats why you cant find them, they arent that easy to breed (although many people have done it) and many people dont like the wild-caught ones since its not good for our eco-system and they arent as hardy.
 

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Ryan, it depends on how you care for the wild-caught blue rams. True that they can be a little more sensitive than the captive-bred ones but all depends on how you care for them. My F1 GBRs are far too hardy despite the fact that I had several disease outbreaks last year along with disastrous CO2 leaks.
musho3210 said:
many people dont like the wild-caught ones since its not good for our eco-system
What's wrong with wild-caught GBRs in our tank ecosystem?:question:
 

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Found some!

A store not even listed in the yellow pages....just saw the sign and went in. Not the cleanest in town, but a tank full of Blue Rams (about 50 or so in a 20 gallon).

I picked the healthiest male and female, and if they turn out to be good tankmates with my discus, I may buy two more.....though they did seem to be aggressive in the tank, I hope it was from overcrowding. I can't tolerate any problems with my discus, they come first.
 

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"many people dont like the wild-caught ones since its not good for our eco-system and they arent as hardy."
Actually, I hear that most blue rams are caught after the flood waters subside and leave small pools and puddles with trapped rams in them. If these fish weren't caught, they'd either die in the pool when it dried up or be eaten by some other critter. They are also a short lived species that reach sexual maturity fast, so capturing the easily caught rams doesn't have a detrimental effect on the natural population, there are plenty more to breed in the larger rivers. It's actually probably closer to the situation with Cardinal Tetras where the aquarium industry is giving the local people a financial incentive to keep their land and waterways in their natural state. Many people just assume that catching wild fish for the hobby is not good for the environment, but that's not always the case. It's actually the exact opposite when it comes to Cardinal Tetras, so don't feel guilty buying wild Cardinals (also another good companion for discus, usually), you're actually supporting efforts to keep their natural environment intact! Please note that this is very species specific and for some species like the bala shark, the aquarium industry has had a very negative impact on its numbers in the wild.
 
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