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Ok it seems that all i have is problems with my tank. I had a terrible out break of Blue green algae (bacteria). I now have it almost wiped out. only to notice i now have Black brush algae growing on one of my plants. if it isn't one thing it is another. any suggestions as far as getting rid of it or keeping it in check?
 

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Blackouts etc wont work as this can survive for weeks etc.
Best 2 methods on my research on all the algeas etc for this one was either;
1/Siamese algae eaters will eat it. Normal blah blah with fish though. Persoanlly if this was me and i wanted them for a quick fix, I'd buy them, and then hand them back to the lfs free/ask to loan them....but i get on with mine super good. lol
2/ Bleach dip. Dip the affected plants or decor in the 1:20 bleach solution for about 10-15 mins and then thoroughly rinse the plant/decor in running water. Remember, bleach, if it enters your tank, can be dangerous to the fish in the tank. You can put back the plant/decor into the tank after rinsing them. The algae turns whitish in the next few days and can be removed easily by hand/brush or can be left to slowly fall off from the infected area.

The time for which you dip plants in the bleach solution depends on which plant is being dipped. Sturdy plants with stronger leaves like the anubias and fern’s can be dipped for upto 15 min, whereas soft leaved plants like bacopa and crypts should only be dipped for 3-5 min.
 

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I have BBA in my aquarium I think I got it from overfeeding which made my nitrates go high anyways I used extra prime to lower my nitrates and added simamese algae eaters also if you use excel for carbon for plants I have read on the forrum that it also helps with BBA I have increased this also
 

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I would have to caution adding a fish to handle an algae problem especially a fish like a SAE! They can be mean to other fish when they get bigger that and adding and other fish to a tank that can't handle the extra bioload will just cause more problems.

How many leaves is the BBA on? Is it just confined to one plant? I use to get Bba on my floating plants but that was it. When I didn't have floating plants and the lights were on too long I would get it on some on my Rosette swords.
 

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That is a thought if it's just one plant. Either just remove th affected leaves or the whole plant completely.
 

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Well it is on just one plant not any others. but I can't think of the name of the plant its like a grass type plant that grows tall. I just can't think of it off hand. but no other plants are affected. And my nitrate's are a little high due to tap water being really high but i am remedying the source of nitrate's. I also heard that amano shrimp eat the stuff But am not sure on if they due. I thought about getting some not just for the BBA but cause i like shrimp.
 

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Is the plant a Vallisneria?? I had BBA on these at the top of the leaves that were floating on the surface.
I just it alone as it didn't kill the plant or move anywhere else on the plant. Now the Bba I had on my rosette swords I would cut the leaves that had the bba on them. I had to turn the duration of the light period down. That helped with it on my swords. It still stayed on the leaves of my Vallisneria.
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Yeah i think that is what is. and i can't find it on any other plant but that one. the plant is actually 4 now do to it spreading so its only on the one kind of plant. Not on my driftwood or anything else. just that one plant but it is more so near the bottom to midway of the plant not really so much at the top.
 

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Use Seachem Excel. Shut off the filters, give the water a chance to calm down, then use a syringe to apply directly to the algae on the plant. Just squirt it on the algae slowly. Wait about 15 minutes, then turn your filters back on. In 24 hrs. the algae will be dead. You may have to retreat the spots you missed the next day. This works like a charm.
 

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Use Seachem Excel. Shut off the filters, give the water a chance to calm down, then use a syringe to apply directly to the algae on the plant. Just squirt it on the algae slowly. Wait about 15 minutes, then turn your filters back on. In 24 hrs. the algae will be dead. You may have to retreat the spots you missed the next day. This works like a charm.
This does work to kill the algae but unless you figure out the cause its just going to come back.
 

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Right!! You need to figure out what your tank is getting too much of. The excel is a temporary fix, not a cure.
 

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Brush algae is the only problem algae I normally see, and it is caused by excessive light. Increasing nutrients beyond what the plants can use will also trigger it, but usually it is the light that controls it.

I used to see it increase in the summer months, until I figured out that the increased light coming into the room during the longer/brighter days was the cause. Keeping the windows well covered solved this for the past two summers.

Once the tank is balanced (light, plants, fish, feeding of fish and plants) the light duration is the control.

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Well i have black out curtains and they stay closed i don't open them up very often. but it could be from my room light. after the tank light goes off..
 

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Well i have black out curtains and they stay closed i don't open them up very often. but it could be from my room light. after the tank light goes off..
My point with the summer light was just to show how light can affect brush algae. Not suggesting yours is due to that.

But what is the tank light? And how long is it on? What size tank? What fertilizers are being added and how often?
 

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The tank is 55g light is two t8 6500k daylight bulbs. on for 8 hrs and the fertilizer is floraPride.
I would reduce the light duration by an hour a day. Monitor for a couple weeks. What you are looking for is no further increase in the algae; what is there will not go away, but if it does not spread, then you have it under control.

But perhaps before the above, you might want to change fertilizers. Tetra's FloraPride allegedly contains "a combination of nutrients" but they only mention potassium and iron, so I am suspicious. Flourish Comprehensive Supplement or Brightwell Aquatics' FlorinMulti are complete and balanced.

I mention the ferts because plants can only out-compete algae for nutrients if they have all they need and the light is balanced.

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Yeah i just started on the flora pride last week i was using NutraFin Plant Gro Aquatic Plant Essential Micro-Nutrients. But i ran out. and it had copper in it. and from what i read my shrimp can't have copper.
 

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Yeah i just started on the flora pride last week i was using NutraFin Plant Gro Aquatic Plant Essential Micro-Nutrients. But i ran out. and it had copper in it. and from what i read my shrimp can't have copper.
The Nutrafin Plant-Gro is better than the FloraPride. It has several nutrients. I've not used it, but from what I can tell it should be better. But you use a lot of it. Flourish Comprehensive is highly concentrated, so while it may seem more expensive, you use so little it last longer. And it is complete.

The amount of copper in these preparations is no where near sufficient to cause problems for invertebrates or fish. Provided you don't overdose of course. You may well have far more copper in your tap water.

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Well honestly that makes more since then what i have been reading. I will certianly go back to the other. I know with florapride it says to dose after every water change or once a month. I normaly do it after a water change. my plants are healthy. And so far the BBA is only on one plant so I'm not stressing to bad about that. as long as i can keep it under control.
 
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