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Loaches are wonderful! But . . . you can have too many. Ask Snappy sometime. . .

Yeah, I probably won't find them at PetSmart, but I have seen them for sale online, so I'm *hoping* that I can find an LFS that can order them for me. - I have time :) For now it's all still dreams >.<
 

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I've got 25 loaches in my 125 :) Got a few more to get still.
 
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I've got 25 loaches in my 125 :) Got a few more to get still.
YOU just need to let the ones you have make some more! ;-)

I've heard stories of tanks actually getting over-run with Kuhli, literally hundreds of them being pulled from the filter and such. Half-hoping I could have that kind of luck!

I'm definitely planning to up the both loach shoals that I have, if possible. Plus the Hovering Zebra loaches, if I'm lucky. . . They'll all be so darn CUTE! *swoons*
 

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I saw some khuli loaches in person yesterday... they're too adorable. I mean seriously, how can you have enough of them?! These ones were TINY, must have been young... just like the frogs <swoon>

I think you should get some Hygrophila rosea! Not a fish but it suuuure is purty! I'd love a forest of the stuff - if it grows bright pink then what a contrast! But er. I'll go back to my plant corner now.

Maybe some... Amamos? Would they be all right with the other fish? The larger ones I imagine would be okay but it depends really.
 

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YES! Baby Kuhli are about THE cutest thing in the universe. In my most humble of opinions. . . those big heads. *swoons*

Yeah. . . I'm sold on the hovering zebra loaches, and after seeing them in video feeding along with Pangio loaches. . . well. They're perfect. How could they not be? They're loaches. . . I kind of feel safe with them, even if they're different. Loaches are just wonderful, no matter what kind they are. I still have more learning to do on these, but I have time. :)

I've also pretty much convinced myself that I must have Whiptails, too. . . again, still loads to learn, but I'll get there. . .

Hygrophila rosea - aaaahhhhhh, Spooks! I hope I can! I want a forest of it, too!!! For right now the lighting in the 55g isn't enough to support stems (hence all of the crytps, anubias, and java ferns everywhere), but I've had good luck with them before in the smaller tanks, and am planning to have better lighting in the 125. I'd be thrilled if I could keep some of those, they're so pretty. :)

My current plot is to slowly set up each tank (that I JUST shut down), and start filling them with plants. Hoping that when I get to moving into the 125, I'll be able to at least have enough to make it feel like home to my fish from day one. . . of course, we must dally along the way, or it wouldn't be any fun, so as soon as I get enough new plants through QT (thinking in the summer), I'll set up a breeding tank for the rams and focus on that for a bit. Wouldn't it be amazing if I could get some little 'livvies that were born here? ::starry eyed::

You know I've been looking into the female Amano shrimp, I think the ONLY way to find an answer here is to try it and see. I would love to see some shrimp in there, but I do have a strong feeling that they WOULD get picked at. As they can't reproduce in fresh water, I wouldn't ever be able to get enough of a colony established, and . . . I kind of wince at the thought, anyway. I suppose I *could* give it a try in the 55. . . the loaches wouldn't mind a nice bunch of moss back behind that rock. And if it fails, I may just have to set myself up a shrimp tank. . . still more research to do, though - all around!
 

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YES! Baby Kuhli are about THE cutest thing in the universe. In my most humble of opinions. . . those big heads. *swoons*

Yeah. . . I'm sold on the hovering zebra loaches, and after seeing them in video feeding along with Pangio loaches. . . well. They're perfect. How could they not be? They're loaches. . . I kind of feel safe with them, even if they're different. Loaches are just wonderful, no matter what kind they are. I still have more learning to do on these, but I have time. :)

I've also pretty much convinced myself that I must have Whiptails, too. . . again, still loads to learn, but I'll get there. . .

Hygrophila rosea - aaaahhhhhh, Spooks! I hope I can! I want a forest of it, too!!! For right now the lighting in the 55g isn't enough to support stems (hence all of the crytps, anubias, and java ferns everywhere), but I've had good luck with them before in the smaller tanks, and am planning to have better lighting in the 125. I'd be thrilled if I could keep some of those, they're so pretty. :)

My current plot is to slowly set up each tank (that I JUST shut down), and start filling them with plants. Hoping that when I get to moving into the 125, I'll be able to at least have enough to make it feel like home to my fish from day one. . . of course, we must dally along the way, or it wouldn't be any fun, so as soon as I get enough new plants through QT (thinking in the summer), I'll set up a breeding tank for the rams and focus on that for a bit. Wouldn't it be amazing if I could get some little 'livvies that were born here? ::starry eyed::

You know I've been looking into the female Amano shrimp, I think the ONLY way to find an answer here is to try it and see. I would love to see some shrimp in there, but I do have a strong feeling that they WOULD get picked at. As they can't reproduce in fresh water, I wouldn't ever be able to get enough of a colony established, and . . . I kind of wince at the thought, anyway. I suppose I *could* give it a try in the 55. . . the loaches wouldn't mind a nice bunch of moss back behind that rock. And if it fails, I may just have to set myself up a shrimp tank. . . still more research to do, though - all around!
Just to be clear here Chesh.... with the Amano shrimp, what would be the tankmates for them?

Want me to tell the story about the Kuhlis? :D
 

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Nobody, if they're species-only ;)

I love the idea of putting shrimp in Becoming, you know - I always have, lol. We were talking about the possibillity of Amano shrimp females, as the grow to around 2.5" I suspect they'd still get picked at by the rams, though. . .

YES! I love the loach story, lol!
 

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I think so, too. I really do love the dwarf loaches in a smaller tank - and a bigger one, too. Can never go wrong with loachbutts. :) Meh. Tank real-estate. . .bother. I do have a 3g tank that's pretty much worthless to me ATM. I can always work that into a shrimp tank?
 

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A three gallon could fit a small group of little shrimp. I hate tanks under five gallons myself, harder to keep a bacteria colony healthy in there, unless you have one of those things that sustain them, which I know nothing about aside from comments people have made.
I wouldn't mind having a little shrimp tank myself. I like those crystal shrimp, but they're so expensive! I had a small group with my betta in grandma's five gallon...but the betta killed them all. >>; And I was told those were good with betta. lol They sure are nice little shrimp though! But I have discovered they're kinda attitudey, even though they're only like an inch long. But so pretty. ;D

I'ma save up for a five gallon, turn it into a birthing tank, so if my girls hold, I can still keep them there comfortably until they're ready without risking surprises. It's hard to catch babies in a big 55 gallon tank!
 
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YES, Sylver! 5g birthing tank. PERFECT solution for you. . . might want to make that. . . 3? ;)

I've held a cycle in a 1g tank before, my daughter's first tank of guppy fry. :D I'm not worried about that part. I'll put it on my list of tanks that really ought to be researched and set up sometime, lol. It's getting longish. ^___^
 

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With the right kind of filter (and willingness to monitor it before adding livestock) and plenty of live plants I don't foresee an issue with keeping a 3 gal cycled. My betta is in a cycled 4gal as his 7 gal broke down and I've had no problems so far (touch wood).
 

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Heh, well, the smallest tank I have is five gallons. I have to say, it doesn't seem to appreciate live plants! I wish I could not only afford three of them, but had room. lol If I had the room and money, I'd have like five ten-twenty gallon birthing tanks. Tens for the smaller moms, and twenties for fish like my big creamsicle. lol It really is unnerving to have the moms in the main tank, as you know, when you actually want the babies. The mortality rate is very high even with a lot of hiding spots. Not to mention all the other fish around when you're trying to give birth or lay eggs!

Speaking of babies, how are your rams doing? Have they tried again yet? Or did the poor things decide enough was enough for this month and maybe more? lol It made me feel so bad for your girl when dad drove her off after all that work! When fish sulk, it's just so...so...I dunno, sad. ^^; As for my moms to be, well, they're being difficult. >_>;
 
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I was sad about it, too - but that first time they did SO well! :) Really hope it was just bad timing, too much going on in the tank plus the new loaches. . .

I don't really know, everything is calm in there at the moment, but the last two spawns were about a month apart, so maybe another week or two. . . IF they feel like it, lol.

Having now seen the beginning (and untimely end) of the process twice now, I have a better idea of what they're looking for when they choose their 'spot.' My current plan of action is to get the plants I have now through QT, and then do my first real re-arranging in there. I'd like to move things around, add an Anubias or three, and *try* to create some areas that are a bit better protected in the hopes that they'll have an easier time defending their nest from the villans in the rest of the tank. That doesn't mean that the fish will actually use the little 'territories' I create, or that my diabolical plot will succeed - but I figure it's worth a try before putting my babies through the stress of a move to a brand-new tank. . . If I can even get them to free-swimming, I could catch just a few and move them into a 10g. . . (while still hoping that the ones in-tank make it through)

*shrugs* Gonna see what we see. :D
 

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I went through and sorted through my old YouTube videos the other day. . . thought I'd post these on this thread, as I don't think I shared them previously. Nothing special, just memory lane fun - fishy style!

The JellyBean Tetra when they were in QT last August. . .they were still so new :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=P_Ph7ahbdZY

And Becoming when she was a 29g - with a misplaced Molly family :) This was March of 2012.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=RJwE3UthB_Y

I think I miss every one of my old tanks. . . :roll:
 

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Right on, you definitely have a bonded pair. Maybe the male will get over himself for this one. Just put all your changes and plans on hold! lol Honestly, I'd just feed the wigglers and fish and cover the tank for a day and have no noise in the area. x.x Poor Liz got so stressed last time, I'd be scared to freakin move in that room. lol

"Third time is the charm," my mother and grandma always say. Even though you probably aren't up for raising a bunch of tidbits...if you DO, you could do like I do and sell them when they're bigger, make back a little money that you've spent, or save some for your incoming super tank.
I know, you probably don't want to, or maybe even can't at this point...but why not re-open one of your closed tanks to raise them in until you can sell them or find homes for them? That is, IF the eggies and fry survive long enough this time, and it's very possible they will since it's the third try and they no doubt have discovered their fatal flaws. Otherwise, I'm curious what you will do with them if the fry survive. Have any plans? God forbid you end up like I did before I got my 55 gallon, over-run with babies even with the ten gallon nursery tank(If you recall seeing any of my earlier nursery videos), didn't have room to raise the majority of them and had to risk it by giving fry to a store that may not care if they live or die! You get attached to them pretty fast, it's hard to do. x.x Funny though, now that I HAVE room to raise many of the babies, my fish stop poppin. LOL
 
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YUP! I've been waiting for the third time to declare a bond, too, lol! I think we've got it though. C + L 4-EVR!

heehee, Sylver. . . I think this one - once again - is going to have to be what it will be! Changes weren't ready to go into effect for at least a month anyway, the new plants are still all in QT, and my other QT tank is occupied. Neither of the bigger tanks are set up, and though I *could* throw one together on a hope and a prayer, I'd rather put infants into a more established setup. I'm honestly just happy that C.Cat and Liz are happy for now. I AM going to see this through, but it takes time - and way too much patience! - to do things right.

For now I'm gonna whoop and cheer and twirl around cuz' WE HAVE EGGS!!!
 

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Awesome!

Yeah, I thought you might say that. And even with parents that know what they're doing, it's probably not a lost cause, but a very slim hope any will survive in the community tank. I hope you get lucky though and get to keep at least a couple of them. It is just so much fun to watch fish grow, they change shape and color, and get in personalities by the day, it's too fun! I put myself through the trouble and even some heartbreak, because the joy of it is enough pay for me. =p


Well, MY moms are still holding. I haven't noticed my guppy that is Miss Luna Golfball grow or shrink in a while. I may have figured out WHY she was holding too...when I medicated my tank, it said not to change the water until the day after you stop medicating, which made it ten days since a change...given I did do a small one because I couldn't stand it...and I had an ammonia spike. x.x Well, the only damage THAT did was a few black spots on my injured guppy, but he's perked up, I feel so bad! I need a medication that works well, wont kill my scaleless friends and snails, and doesn't take 5-7 days. My fish like their schedule! And since I have kids in there, I've been adding dusted flakes and smaller foods, so that sure didn't help. lol


I really, really hope you get a couple tidbits to raise. I, personally, would love to see updates about them as they grow. x)
 
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