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I'm going to buy my dad a new aquarium and all the accessories for X-mas since he's not had one since we moved awhile back. I just need some advice on where to buy the aquarium itself as well as some stocking options for fish.

I want a glass aquarium, at or around 30 gallons.

I've seen setups like this:

29 Gallon Fish Tank » SeaClear 29 Gallon Show Tanks | PetSmart

But I want to make sure I buy an aquarium that's not cheaply put together and is going to have leaky seams within a few months. Also, is it better to go with a canister or power filter?

For fish options, I like the following:

Cory's
Gouramis
Plecos
Mollies
Danios
And the smaller guys like tetras, rainbow fish, rasboras, etc.

Any and all help is greatly appreciated!
 

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hello and welcome.
others will hopefully chime in with good advise for you, i prefer external
filters,as you get more tank room for plants and fish.
 

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I'm going to buy my dad a new aquarium and all the accessories for X-mas since he's not had one since we moved awhile back. I just need some advice on where to buy the aquarium itself as well as some stocking options for fish.

I want a glass aquarium, at or around 30 gallons.

I've seen setups like this:

29 Gallon Fish Tank » SeaClear 29 Gallon Show Tanks | PetSmart

But I want to make sure I buy an aquarium that's not cheaply put together and is going to have leaky seams within a few months. Also, is it better to go with a canister or power filter?

For fish options, I like the following:

Cory's
Gouramis
Plecos
Mollies
Danios
And the smaller guys like tetras, rainbow fish, rasboras, etc.

Any and all help is greatly appreciated!
I am personally going to be purchasing the 37 gallon kit by aqueon on petsmarts website. A canister filter will ALWAYS be the better option.

As far as stock, if you want a pleco you can only keep a single bristlenose in a 30 gallon. A single gourami, some mollies and cories would make a lovely tank. Possibly even a few danio but you have to have a school of at least 6. Of the fish you mentioned, I would personally stock the following;

1 Powder Blue or Honey Gourami
10 Zebra Danio
5 Mollies
6 Panda Corydora
1 Bristlenose Pleco

These would all work in a 29 gallon (like the one you pictured).
 

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I guess the first question is, what's your budget? I'd recommend giving your dad "fish coupons" for the actual fish, since you can't add all those at one time to a new (uncycled) aquarium. I'd recommend, if you can afford it, a canister (Eheim 2213, or something similar).

You could physically house 2-3 BN plecos into a 30 gallon tank, but if you ended up with 2+ males (can't sex them when they are small), they wouldn't really have enough room to each stake out a territory, so as recommended, much better to go with one BN. Plecos also are a heavy "poop" load fish and add a lot to the bio demand on a tank, reducing what else you could add without overwheming the filter.
 
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I guess the first question is, what's your budget? I'd recommend giving your dad "fish coupons" for the actual fish, since you can't add all those at one time to a new (uncycled) aquarium. I'd recommend, if you can afford it, a canister (Eheim 2213, or something similar).

You could physically house 2-3 BN plecos into a 30 gallon tank, but if you ended up with 2+ males (can't sex them when they are small), they wouldn't really have enough room to each stake out a territory, so as recommended, much better to go with one BN. Plecos also are a heavy "poop" load fish and add a lot to the bio demand on a tank, reducing what else you could add without overwheming the filter.
My Budget is $250 give or take for the tank and equipment, fish are a separate budget. Yeah I definitely will wait until it has been cycled, just want to make sure I get a fish stocking setup that the filtration and the water can handle.

If I don't put a BN pleco in there what does that free up? Can I add another Gourami?
 

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IMHO, two gourami will kill each other in a 29. I have never had much luck keeping more than one gourami per tank.
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Welcome to the forum! A properly taken care of tank sounds like a great Christmas present. A 29 gal (or thereabouts) is a great beginner tank size. That site showed a tank decorated with fake plants, but I'll always be a proponent of live plants. Easy plants like anubias and java fern tied to driftwood are a great addition to any aquarium. The gourami will greatly appreciate floating plants. Mine love to hang out under them.

As for stocking, a lot is going to depend on what you can find around you. Shipping in fish is expensive. I would stock the tank like this:

2 mid-swimming shoals (this is going to be fish like the tetra, rasbora, platies, ect--I'd personally do harlequin rasbora and x-ray tetra)
1 bottom shoal (bronze cories are a hardy and adaptable species)
3 honey gourami (2 female and 1 male)
1 bristlenose pleco (unless you can get 1 male and 1 female)

All of these species are rather adaptable to hard and soft water, provided yours isn't too far one way or another.
 

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29 or 30?

If your trying to choose between a 29 or 30 gallon tank, I would advise to get the 30. The 29 gallon is a great beginner tank, it was my first serious aquarium, but the 30 gallon has a few advantages in my opinion. First the29 gal. is a tall tank so it has less surface area per gallon than a 30 long. Also, if you want cory catfish , the 30 gal has a larger footprint in square inches, more bottom area for the corys. And plus that one extra gallon of stability. Of course if you can I would say get a bigger tank, about 60-75 gallon is great size and a lot of options open up as far as stocking. Good luck
 

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Just my opinion- that 40 gal will make a MUCH nicer aquarium than a 29 gal. I love the 40 gal size because of the extra room front to back, and its still only 36" ;only 6" longer than 29. Its not very tall, but it has large surface area and also a lot of space on the floor for your corys. I have a 40 g tank with loaches and I think it's a perfect size... if your not going to go for a 75gal.
 

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I'd certainly go for the 40 gal over the 29 gal, too. In general, larger is better. A large volume of water takes longer to change, so water temperature and water parameters will stay pretty stable. Plus, a larger tank means you can have more shoals of fish!
 

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Ok here's what I've decided on so far

Equipment:
40 Gallon Aquarium
Eheim Plus 2213-37 Filter
Aqueon Proheater 150w Heater
Azoo Air Pump 6500

Plants:
Anubias Nana
Micro sword
Anubias Congensis
Anubias hastifolia
Anacharis
Ludwigia Needle Leaf

Now I just need some suggestions for stocking once again. As well as how many of each plant.
 

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Unless you just like the bubbles (which I do), you can do without the air pump and spend that $$ on plants or substrate. The least expensive substrate is well-washed play sand. Two bags (2x50lb) is more than you'd need and would cost less than $10.

Looks like low-light plants (Anubias) are the "centerpiece" plants, so avoid the micro sword - requires high light levels to do well and even then it grows very, very, slowly.
 
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You can save some money on the filter by going for a hang on back (hob) instead of a canister. I love aquaclear70 , had one running for six years now with no trouble . Canister filters are more advanced and a lot of people prefer them, but for a 40 gallon I don't think its neccesary. Spend the money yousave on plants or decor such as driftwood or rocks. I think the stocking list suggested by thekoimaiden is excellent advice, and you can alter it as far as exact species of gourami, danio... . Its hard to say how many gouramis will get along in a 40 because there is a lot of variation within each species ; some fish are very aggressive, some are extremley shy and skittish. I have 2 dwarf gouramis and a blue gourami in a 29 gal and they get along fine. Try to get young fish if you can. Lots of plants and blind spots / hiding places will help your fish coexist more peacfully, they won't be in eachothers sight so much as in a bare tank. I can't stand aggression in my tanks. I thinks its a wonderful present to give to your dad, I wish I would get a new tank for xmass from my kids! Best of luck to you.
P.S. playsand works great for fishtanks but the ordeal of rinsing it is long and labor intensive. I just changed a tank from gravel to sand, the results are wonderful but if I had it to do over I would spend the money on good fishtank sand. Still has to be rinsed, but a lot less than playsand. Its expensive in the fish store but I took 8 total hours of work to rinse a 50# bag and ended up with about 30# of sand after all the gunk was washed out. Still its another way to save some $$$ and its completly safe for your fish.
Aquarium water clarifier will settle the particulates out of your water if its a little cloudy from the sand. Once its settled you shouldn't have any cloudiness unless you really stir up the sand, which I would advize not to do. Thanks and good luck!
 

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I would advise against a aqueon heater. Aqueon makes good products but their heaters are terribly loud. When on, it creates a very loud knocking sound. While it heats well, I can't get passed the knocking.

Go ahead a google "aqueon heater knocking" and read what others say.

Just "food" for thought.
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I'm going to comment on a few things and then hit the stocking.

As for filters, if you plan on going sand, I would get a canister. HOB filters tend to get burned out when used with sand. Every single one I've had got sand in it and eventually died. Canisters are more expensive, but the old saying "you get what you pay for" applies here.

It sounds like you (OP) are going low-light. I love low-light plants. You might want to look into java fern as well as some of the easy crypts like wendtii and undulata. They also thrive in the low-light conditions of anubias and will provide somewhat of a ground cover.

DKRST has a good point about the bubbler. If you aren't 100% sold on bubbles, then just leave it out. They can be expensive, and that's money you could put elsewhere.

Now stocking. I'll let you chose the species as it's totally your preference. But here are the numbers and types I'd go with:

2-3 shoals of danio, tetra, or rasbora. Aim for about 12 fish per shoal. Try to shoot for fish that tend to occupy different parts of the aquarium. For example, black neon tetra tend to like to stay around the top whereas cardinal tetra usually stay near the bottom.
2 shoals of cories. This is two species with about 8 fish each. Or a single species shoal of about 12.
3-4 gourami. Honey gourami would be my first choice as they are pretty and generally peaceful. Aim for one male and the rest female.
2 bristlenose pleco (just make sure you give them driftwood and caves)
 

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