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I am switching my all male african cichlid tank to a peaceful freshwater tank. I used to have a live bearer 20 gallon aquarium and enjoyed watching the breeding process. Had many baby survive without even having to separate them.

I want a colorful tank without the aggression of the africans. I was looking at possibly some cardinal tetras for my schooling fish (maybe 10?) and then maybe some platys in hopes of having some breeding action (1m 5f if sex-able) .

Other than that I'm not sure what else would make a cool community. Possibly a few Roseline Sharks?

Thanks for the thoughts and suggestions!!:cool:
 

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I wouldnt do cardinals with platys. They like completely different water chemistry. But you can. I would personally do a nice big thick planted tank. I would probably put 4-6 angels, probably some nice big schools of cardinals (12), rummynose (12), cooper rasboras (24) (MUCH smaller than harlequins), and hatchets (12). Probably a 2 pairs of dwarf cichlids, 6 or so cories, 5ish yoyo loaches, 6 or so otos and a nice group of plecs, probably 3 bristlenose, and 2 clowns or rubberlips. Than that would be it. It would be mostly an amazon tank. You could do roseline sharks (6+) if you would like. I'm just telling you how I would most likely stock the tank. Have you thought of breeding rams, apistos, kribs, or any other dwarf cichlids?
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well i only have one tank setup and I dont want to have to set up another tank to raise the fry. What i liked about platys and swordtails was that they could breed easily and I would just feed the fry living in the floating plants microworms and many would survive. Id have to lookinto rams but from what i remember reading in the past they arent as easy to just let breed and have survivors in a community tank.
 

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Dude it's only a 90 gallon! It's big but it's not THAT big. Not big enough for roselines, and not big enough to accommodate 5 plecos.



I would decide on a centerpiece fish and work around that.
 

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Well i would make it planted and have extremely good filtration. 5 "dwarf" plecs isnt that much. If you dont do your wc, not a good filter and dont have a lot of driftwood, than yes it would be WAY to much. Dont the sharks only get 4in? If im wrong please correct me. Yes you would have to remove the babies. What about wrestling halfbeaks? They are easy livebearers and like acidic water (i believe), like the cardinals. +1 on thinking of a centerpiece first.
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well i have driftwood but definitely dont want plecos. They make more of a mess than they clean IME. I think the roselines would work as they only get 6" tops....but i dont need to have them. I agree with looking at a center piece fish. What about two pairs of rams or apistos? Could they breed in a tank and defend there young if there were other docile fish with them?
 

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Yes they with guard them. But sometime even cories get fry. It is hard to do. Cuz most fish will go after fry. Especially at night. Kribs are one of the best parents, they would have a good chance. Same with angels. But you will need a grow out tank or something because your tank will get grossly overstocked with 50+ rams. Or with 2 pairs 100+.
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Yes i dont expect 100% survival rate by leaving them in the tank. Even if only handful survive it would be ok. I have a good relationship with my LFS so I can always sell or exchange my fish with them, no issue. Have done that with even convicts. If they take convicts, theyll take anything I give lol. Im going to look at making either bolivians or apisots my main fish. Any suggestions on tank mates based on that?
 

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Male BN plecos grow to 6 inches. Pretty large for a "dwarf".

I have roselines in my 125 - I would never consider keeping them in a smaller tank. A school of 6 inch fish is quite a large biomass of fish. Add to that their activity level and there's just no way a 4 foot tank is appropriate for a log term home.
 

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My concern would be all the plecos in addition to the otos. What are the otos going to eat? They can't compete with 4-6" plecos for food.
 

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I already said Im NOT adding plecos guys lol
 

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Yes lol. I just told babarian how I would stock it. Plus IME plecos eat algae on large surface area stuff (glass, big rocks, driftwood, large leaved plants (swords, crypt, ect.), than the otos eat it where the plecos can physically get. Like small leaved plants (rotalas, glosso, ludwigias, ect). I would not mix the to if you arent going to plants the heck out of the tank. Babarian i guess you could do rams if you want to. Would that be your centerpiece?
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Yes they would. I just have a redtail shark and two clown loaches I'd want to stay with them
 

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90 gallons isn't large enough for clown loaches.

Agreed. They require a REALLY large tank once grown - larger than the vast majority of people can accommodate.

I fail to understand what the growth rate has to do with anything.
 

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I agree also. But if they are babies than you can have them. If they are 7+ than i would rehome them.
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I suspect that you don't have a lot of experience with botine loaches, otherwise you would never suggest getting rid of them once they are big.
 
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