Tropical Fish Keeping banner

1 - 20 of 257 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,014 Posts
Discussion Starter #1
Okay so I figured I would start a new journal as I am starting a new tank. I am moving back home to Rockville, MD into the basement of my mothers house...yay! Actually, as soon as I get a job I will be out the door running to get my own place.

Right now I have not yet moved so I have the 75 empty and Neons, Rasboras and the a Bolivian in the 29.

Here is what I am planning and if anyone has any ideas or suggestions please feel free.

29 Gallon Freshwater Planted Community
  • 14-16 Harlequin Rasboras. (8 Current)
  • 8-10 Kuhli Loachs
  • 1 Male Dwarf Gourami (1 Current)
  • 1 Male Bristlenose Pleco (1 Current)
75 Gallon Amazon Planted Tank
  • 40-50 Neon Tetras (12 Current)
  • 20-25 Bronze Cory (4 Current)
  • 5-8 Bolivian Rams (2 Current Males in difff tanks)
  • 1 Male Albino Bristlenose Pleco (1 Current)
I was thinking about this large school of Neons or maybe two schools of 25 but I don't know what other fish. Cardinals?

I could also think about doing two schools of cories.

Here is what the 29 currently looks like. I'm planning on removing the gravel and making is maybe flourite with sand or soil and sand. I need advice and thoughts on this. I will be moving Thursday and setting them up then. Not much time :/

The main idea is to get this tank to have mainly rocks and plants, I am going to need some wood for the bristlenose and hiding spots but I mainly want a mountain side. I can put a cave in the middle.



This picture of the 75 is just me putting the rocks in. I'm moving the big two rocks into the 29 to create that mountain side. I am leaning more towards a heavily planted tank with more wood in it. I think I will need smaller rocks and bigger pieces of wood. I have enough plants though.

 

·
Registered
Joined
·
6,174 Posts
HOORAY FOR TERMIE!!!!

I have no idea about stocking, but you're gonna LOVE those Kuhli! I really think you'll enjoy your Bolivians, too, if they're kept in the right conditions and get along well in a group as mine do. My shoal of tetra is so amazing to watch at #20, I can't imagine how neat 40+ will be together. . . very cool plans.

You've been giving a fresh start, in a way. . . living with your mom might not be the best for YOU, but for your fish, I think it's the best thing that could have happened! Soft water with no nitrates out of tap is going to make everyone's lives much easier, and with all you've learned since you started, I'm sure things will go more smoothly with the 75.

I'm looking forward to watching you create/remake a pair of beautiful tanks - It's gonna be a fun time. Just promise me. . . take things slow, do ALL your homework, and QT the HECK outta those new fishies this time around, neh? I know you will, cuz' you live closer to me now, and I'll come find you and kick your rear if you don't! ;-)

Keep us posted!
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,014 Posts
Discussion Starter #3
HOORAY FOR TERMIE!!!!

I have no idea about stocking, but you're gonna LOVE those Kuhli! I really think you'll enjoy your Bolivians, too, if they're kept in the right conditions and get along well in a group as mine do. My shoal of tetra is so amazing to watch at #20, I can't imagine how neat 40+ will be together. . . very cool plans.

You've been giving a fresh start, in a way. . . living with your mom might not be the best for YOU, but for your fish, I think it's the best thing that could have happened! Soft water with no nitrates out of tap is going to make everyone's lives much easier, and with all you've learned since you started, I'm sure things will go more smoothly with the 75.

I'm looking forward to watching you create/remake a pair of beautiful tanks - It's gonna be a fun time. Just promise me. . . take things slow, do ALL your homework, and QT the HECK outta those new fishies this time around, neh? I know you will, cuz' you live closer to me now, and I'll come find you and kick your rear if you don't! ;-)

Keep us posted!
Haha chesh. Yea i need to get the actual number of HOW soft this water is. Its around or below 12dgh im sure.

Im gonna post some new pictures up later. :)
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
6,174 Posts
Can't wait for the pics AND for the numbers on your water. Oh how NICE for the fish. . . Have any of your plants shown any signs of confusion over the water change yet? I wonder if they'll have to go through a regrowth period, or if things will be close enough otherwise that they'll take it with no problems. . .
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
22,557 Posts
With respect to your stocking lists in post #1:

29g I would have slightly fewer rasbora, and suggest another species or two. Unless you want only the one species. No problem with that, I don't know your intention, whether more a species-only or community.

In the 75g i would not have so many Bolivians. This species does best in solitude, or a bonded pair, as noted in the profile. I have a male in my 5-foot 115g tank, and I cannot imagine more. He killed the female previously.

Byron.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
5,139 Posts
I would for sure consider quarantine tank for all new fish especially the neon's.
Neon's are not nearly as hardy a fish as they used to be in my view ,and I fear trying to get the number's you seek for the 75 gal would mandate that I (were it me), quarantine the new fishes lest they otherwise get sick in main tank, and spread pathogen or virus unkown throughout the tank.
I recently (few month's) lost nearly forty fish from 80 gal tank after introducing a dozen neon's to try and increase the school.
I often preach the use of quarantine and neglected to heed my own advice.
It came back to bit e me in the !%$.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,014 Posts
Discussion Starter #7
Chesh, you just got a picture from me on Skype lol. Once my phone works correctly I'll post them on here.

With respect to your stocking lists in post #1:

29g I would have slightly fewer rasbora, and suggest another species or two. Unless you want only the one species. No problem with that, I don't know your intention, whether more a species-only or community.

In the 75g i would not have so many Bolivians. This species does best in solitude, or a bonded pair, as noted in the profile. I have a male in my 5-foot 115g tank, and I cannot imagine more. He killed the female previously.

Byron.
Yeah I can see how that could be too many. Another species of rasboras? What would you recommend? I'm open to suggestion.

Well i just want the Kuhli loachs, the rasboras and the gourami...unless you think another fish would go well. I just like those fish in general...although the gourami is a stand out...

I'm really going to have to think about the Bolivians and what to do with them. Right now I have 10 cories in the 10 Gallon QT tank. i just got them today.

I would for sure consider quarantine tank for all new fish especially the neon's.
Neon's are not nearly as hardy a fish as they used to be in my view ,and I fear trying to get the number's you seek for the 75 gal would mandate that I (were it me), quarantine the new fishes lest they otherwise get sick in main tank, and spread pathogen or virus unkown throughout the tank.
I recently (few month's) lost nearly forty fish from 80 gal tank after introducing a dozen neon's to try and increase the school.
I often preach the use of quarantine and neglected to heed my own advice.
It came back to bit e me in the !%$.
Yeah I absolutely am going to do that. I have the new cories as I mentioned above in the 10G QT tank right now.

I was thinking about Cardinals....what do you think about maybe 1 school of Neons and 1 of Cardinals...each 12 at the LEAST....I'd like more...what do you think?

Yeah I had a problem like that when I introduced some rams and they had Camillanus. It wasn't pretty. I also learned the hard way.


I'm thinking about leaving the cories in there for 4 weeks if they seem healthy. 6-8 weeks should anything happen.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
6,174 Posts
I personally think I'd go with a large number of a single type of Tetra, but I don't know about stocking - I just think that I'd like to watch such a big group of one species. . . I happen to have recently fallen in love with a shoal of Tetra though, lol!

I'm sure there's a standard recommended QT period, but out of curiosity, how long did you have Burt before you noticed that he was infected with the worms? QT at LEAST that long, cuz' that was a nightmare. . .
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,014 Posts
Discussion Starter #10
I personally think I'd go with a large number of a single type of Tetra, but I don't know about stocking - I just think that I'd like to watch such a big group of one species. . . I happen to have recently fallen in love with a shoal of Tetra though, lol!

I'm sure there's a standard recommended QT period, but out of curiosity, how long did you have Burt before you noticed that he was infected with the worms? QT at LEAST that long, cuz' that was a nightmare. . .
Im quite sure I had burt for 3-4 weeks before he showed any signs. i will be QT'ing for 4 weeks. It's so hard to wait but I will be patient.


Cool idea, im thinking of going sand also for my 29gal.
Yeah I have sand in the 29 and 75 right now. The sand in the 29 is darker so it looks weird though hahah. I'll take some pictures to post up here soon.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,014 Posts
Discussion Starter #11
So I just moved into my mother’s house in Rockville, MD last week. The drive took about 3 hours and the fish weren’t very happy with me for that. I put them in three separate buckets. I had each of the two Bolivian Rams in separate bucket and the gourami in the third. I separated the plecos and just then put the rest of them accordingly.
When i got home the water was normal, but inside my mother’s house it is VERY cold. We moved everything into the house quickly in order to set up the fish tanks so the fish wouldn’t die. I was quite scared. I set up the 29 first and put water into it. I then planted it and filled it. I did this all really fast because I didn’t want to lose any fish, so I will most likely have to revisit this tank in order to make it look and feel better for the fish. There are barely any hiding areas in it. Then i started working on the 75, except this time I didn’t plant it before I filled it. By the time I was done with the 75, the 29 was a bit more cleared up so i could put the fish in there. When i looked in the bucket, there were two dead Rasboras. I was not happy and this kind of got me working even faster so i didn’t lose any more fish. I got the rasboras and the Gouramis into the tank around midnight that night.

Here is a horrifying picture of my ugly 29. I know it looks bad, but bare with me until i fix it up! hahah



It took another hour for me to set up the 75 and get it ready to put fish in there. I had finished putting fish into the tank around 3am that morning. Took quite a while to fill the 75. A few days passed and then i set up the 10 gallon QT tank so I could get my cories for the 75. The tank stabilized in a day and now has cories and one Ram (until I figure out what to do with him) in there.



A week has passed since I have moved and things are settling. I have moved a lot of the plants from 29 into the 75 gallon. I will need to order more plants in order to fill everything out. Everyone in the 75 is looking great, the only exception being my rams which look pale. They color up really nicely after they eat but I will just have to keep a close eye on them to make sure their healthy. Their swimming and have shown no signs of distress other than the paleness so i am hoping everything will be good. All the water parameters are within normal range.Note: sorry about the white balance, I am still getting used to my moms camera.

Here is the 75 Gallon 3-4 days after I had set it up.



Here is the 75 Gallon yesterday, right after a water change and replanting:



I called the water plant in Rockville, MD. I’ll say this, from the second I called the people seemed more knowledgeable, more polite and completely willing to help instead of forwarding me around everywhere.

Calcium Hardness: 60-120 milligrams per litter

4 – 8 dGH 70 – 140 ppm soft water

Read more: http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/freshwater-articles/water-hardness-ph-freshwater-aquarium-73276/#ixzz239vVbJyo

I HAVE SOFT WATER NOW! PERFECT….who can see discus in my future.

Here is what I just love about being here, within a week of them being in the great soft water my cories started mating:

 

·
Registered
Joined
·
22,557 Posts
That went very well. Water sounds good too. :-D

Byron.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,014 Posts
Discussion Starter #14 (Edited)
The ram is just like "This is REALLY awkward."

Looks good!
Thanks Olympia!

I took Byron's advice and separated the two Rams. The less dominant one is in the 10 and as you can see the other one still is in the 75.

It was interesting because they had just eaten and the Ram was darker, but as soon as the corries started having "fun" he paled out and was like woooooa whats this! haha.

I'm really thinking about what to do now on the 75, because I do have soft water with low nitrates now. I'm going to take it slow because in the end I may choose to go Discus! hahah. I'd have to wait at least 2 months though for my QT tank to be empty. I have 10 corries in the QT right now. The only problem about me getting discus though is I have neons....problem.


That went very well. Water sounds good too. :-D

Byron.

Thanks Byron! I'm happy about the water! It's crazy how in the same state...just over the bay it changes that much. Those farms are really just polluting the water over there.

What do you think about the stocking. I'm kind of at a stand still on that.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
6,174 Posts
I love how the Bolivians communicate with coloration, it's amazing how they let you know what they think about things. I have no doubt that the activity of the Cories upset him, but treat those little Livies with kid gloves right now, they do stress more easily than any fish I've ever met, and they've been through SO much over the last week or so. . . change of water, change of tank, travel, etc. . . be nice to them, and just leave those tanks alone for a few weeks to get adjusted - please!!?

And. . . if rams are sensitive, Discus are WAY more so. You know I don't know about things so well yet, but if it were ME, I'd wait on those beauties until you're in a place where you know you'll be living for at least a few years. I suspect it'll be harder to get Discus from point A to point B in a bucket - I wouldn't want to try it, anyway. . . lol!

At any rate, the tanks look REALLY good, considering what they've just come through. I know the plants will fill in super-fast for you, and when they do you'll feel better about things. As for stocking, I have no advice to give - but whatever you decide on. . . PATIENCE is all you need right now! *hands Termie a bucketful of patience* Leave everything alone. No new fish, no new plants, no aquascaping. . . LOL! CAN YOU DO IT??!

;-)
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,014 Posts
Discussion Starter #16
I love how the Bolivians communicate with coloration, it's amazing how they let you know what they think about things. I have no doubt that the activity of the Cories upset him, but treat those little Livies with kid gloves right now, they do stress more easily than any fish I've ever met, and they've been through SO much over the last week or so. . . change of water, change of tank, travel, etc. . . be nice to them, and just leave those tanks alone for a few weeks to get adjusted - please!!?
I told you I would! I'm trying not to touch ANYTHING at all, except just add new plants and lighting. That's the only thing that will change until the cories in the QT are ready to go in there.

And. . . if rams are sensitive, Discus are WAY more so. You know I don't know about things so well yet, but if it were ME, I'd wait on those beauties until you're in a place where you know you'll be living for at least a few years. I suspect it'll be harder to get Discus from point A to point B in a bucket - I wouldn't want to try it, anyway. . . lol!
Yeah I went to my LFS to look at the discus....and just by looking at them for 5 minutes I could tell they were harder to keep hahaha. They were constantly trying to establish dominance over one another because they were in such a small tank. Made me sad :(.

Before I even TOUCH the world of discuss im gonna do so much research you will be sick of hearing all about it hahaah.

Well they would go into the 75 from the store and i could transport them in my 5 gallon bucket instead of that bag the store gives you. I live about 10-15 minutes away from the LFS that sells them so its not TOO far. I'm not even gonna get into that now though cause I need to do some much more before I even consider getting them.

At any rate, the tanks look REALLY good, considering what they've just come through. I know the plants will fill in super-fast for you, and when they do you'll feel better about things. As for stocking, I have no advice to give - but whatever you decide on. . . PATIENCE is all you need right now! *hands Termie a bucketful of patience* Leave everything alone. No new fish, no new plants, no aquascaping. . . LOL! CAN YOU DO IT??!

;-)
Thanks chesh!

Even the 29!? I dunno I feel that one looks weird! hahah

Yeah I need to get more lights for the plants so they can grow faster otherwise all the root tabs, excel and flourish wont do any good. I'm running it on half the light I had in there before I moved so I gotta fix that. I also need like 2x the light for my 75.

I think you are right though about me feeling better about the tanks once the plants fill in. I'll feel better about it once I get the lighting and hoods settled and how I want them. I think I may need to switch to a thinner floating plant like what Rhymon has...I forgot what that was...but I like it! hahaha

I dunno about the no new plants but I can absolutely agree with the no aquascaping and no new fish! hahahah

I've got another 3.5 weeks left of QTing these cories. I still also have to figure out what I am going to do with the two Rams. If it comes to it, I'll put the second ram in the 29 and the gourami in the 10...dunno though. Maybe I could always one to you if I decide on discuss....lol.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
6,174 Posts
Haha, I know, Term, I know. . . you're being on your best behavior, and I'm SO proud of you! But you have to admit - you're an impulsive kinda guy! I just remember what a mess your tanks were in not too long ago with fish being moved from here to there because they were bullying each-other, and stocking was all wonky, and the water in the old place was a disaster. . . ug. . . I'm SOOOOO excited that you're kind of getting a fresh start with the move back home. Good water, bigger tanks - in a way you're starting over. I just want to see you create the most beautiful, happy, HEALTHY tank that you can. And the name of that game is patience! And it SUCKS that things are looking a bit rough right now, but I would be really keeping my eyes on the fish more than the overall look of things. They'll need time to adjust with no more changes to their world, I would think. But that's my beginner opinion, and if they were my tanks, while I'd be JUST as tempted to start ferkling to make them look better to me, I'd just wait for a month and let them look a bit rough plantwise to give the fish a chance to settle in (without the super bright lights!)

Discus are gorgeous. . . and you have a nice big tank with good water. . .I get it! BUT you're planning to be move again in the near future - just wait on them, at least until you do! Gain some experience with a tank that has no problems and let things rest until you settle into your new 'permanent' home before you even think about going there. From what little I've read, Discus can be very delicate, and . . .I personally would be afraid to move house with them in-tow. I will be more than happy to be made sick of hearing about them while you do your research, you should know by now that I never tire of learning about different types of fish - fascinating creatures!

The 29 looks different, yes - and it isn't to your aesthetic. . . but it has it's own kind of charm, really! IT'S SO HARD TO LEAVE THINGS ALONE!!!! I KNOW!!!! But there's enough plantlife in that tank that it will soon fill in! It isn't a jungle yet - but it will be, and with the way your tanks grow, it won't take very long *wonders if you'll see a reduction in plant growth now that you don't have insane nitrates from tap* Again, if it were ME, I'd leave it all alone! The plants need to settle, too. They're in new water conditions, and you may very well see a die-off period from them as they adjust to the new softer water and rebound. Aside from any hitch-hikers that could ride in on new plants (and YES, I DO see you bringing home a 'harmless' plant and it infecting your tanks with Ich or something - you don't have the best of luck, you have to admit!)

Rhymon has (or had anyway) Salvinia - Water Spangles. I sent you a bit of mine, I believe. It wasn't much. . . but I was hoping they'd go crazy for you! And you DO have enough Riccia (um, thinnest floating plant EVER!) that you can spread throughout the tanks a bit, lol! And again. . . on the plants and the nitrate. . . you can NOT just expect that the plants will behave in the same way in this water as they did in the other water. Another good reason for going slowly with the planting/lighting/ferts/etc. You may find that you'll have to go a different route, because you have water that tests with 0 nitrate, and they might behave differently because of that. . . I don't know anything, it will probably be fine. . .but I'd go slowly JIC - so you have time to learn and adjust YOUR approach before a *slight* problem gets out of control.

You'll figure it all out, I know you will! I just am going to keep repeating myself and saying GO SLOWLY! BE PATIENT! DON'T DO ANYTHING - just as a friendly reminder! Feel free to ignore me - you know full well that I don't know ANYTHING about aquariums yet! ;-)
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,014 Posts
Discussion Starter #18
Haha, I know, Term, I know. . . you're being on your best behavior, and I'm SO proud of you! But you have to admit - you're an impulsive kinda guy! I just remember what a mess your tanks were in not too long ago with fish being moved from here to there because they were bullying each-other, and stocking was all wonky, and the water in the old place was a disaster. . . ug. . . I'm SOOOOO excited that you're kind of getting a fresh start with the move back home. Good water, bigger tanks - in a way you're starting over. I just want to see you create the most beautiful, happy, HEALTHY tank that you can. And the name of that game is patience! And it SUCKS that things are looking a bit rough right now, but I would be really keeping my eyes on the fish more than the overall look of things. They'll need time to adjust with no more changes to their world, I would think. But that's my beginner opinion, and if they were my tanks, while I'd be JUST as tempted to start ferkling to make them look better to me, I'd just wait for a month and let them look a bit rough plantwise to give the fish a chance to settle in (without the super bright lights!)

Discus are gorgeous. . . and you have a nice big tank with good water. . .I get it! BUT you're planning to be move again in the near future - just wait on them, at least until you do! Gain some experience with a tank that has no problems and let things rest until you settle into your new 'permanent' home before you even think about going there. From what little I've read, Discus can be very delicate, and . . .I personally would be afraid to move house with them in-tow. I will be more than happy to be made sick of hearing about them while you do your research, you should know by now that I never tire of learning about different types of fish - fascinating creatures!

The 29 looks different, yes - and it isn't to your aesthetic. . . but it has it's own kind of charm, really! IT'S SO HARD TO LEAVE THINGS ALONE!!!! I KNOW!!!! But there's enough plantlife in that tank that it will soon fill in! It isn't a jungle yet - but it will be, and with the way your tanks grow, it won't take very long *wonders if you'll see a reduction in plant growth now that you don't have insane nitrates from tap* Again, if it were ME, I'd leave it all alone! The plants need to settle, too. They're in new water conditions, and you may very well see a die-off period from them as they adjust to the new softer water and rebound. Aside from any hitch-hikers that could ride in on new plants (and YES, I DO see you bringing home a 'harmless' plant and it infecting your tanks with Ich or something - you don't have the best of luck, you have to admit!)

Rhymon has (or had anyway) Salvinia - Water Spangles. I sent you a bit of mine, I believe. It wasn't much. . . but I was hoping they'd go crazy for you! And you DO have enough Riccia (um, thinnest floating plant EVER!) that you can spread throughout the tanks a bit, lol! And again. . . on the plants and the nitrate. . . you can NOT just expect that the plants will behave in the same way in this water as they did in the other water. Another good reason for going slowly with the planting/lighting/ferts/etc. You may find that you'll have to go a different route, because you have water that tests with 0 nitrate, and they might behave differently because of that. . . I don't know anything, it will probably be fine. . .but I'd go slowly JIC - so you have time to learn and adjust YOUR approach before a *slight* problem gets out of control.

You'll figure it all out, I know you will! I just am going to keep repeating myself and saying GO SLOWLY! BE PATIENT! DON'T DO ANYTHING - just as a friendly reminder! Feel free to ignore me - you know full well that I don't know ANYTHING about aquariums yet! ;-)
I'm not rescaping the tank. But I will be adding lights and more plants though.

Yeah I don't plan on getting them anytime soon. I have to figure everything else out here first, also I have Neons and they would most likely eat the neons. That's my biggest concern. If I get more neons I don't know how that would work out. I have a lot to think about so don't worry I will be taking it slow.

My biggest problem with the 29 is the fact that the gourami has no hiding areas. He needs something to hide behind because hes such a panzy. I think the nitrates will effect the plants BUT the biggest thing right now is my lighting. All my tanks are running on half the light I used to have them on. I need to get more lights then I will be good.

Yeah I am slowly warming up to the 29 not that I removed all the Dwarf Sag from it and spaced out the stem plants. I'm thinking about adding a flat rock so the gourami can have a hiding spot.

As for QT'ing plants, I might as well. Although, the only new plants I've been getting are from fellow aquarist. If I get some from Mika i'm probably not going to QT them lol.

Oh that was salvania, yeah that stuff hopefully will grow in. This water tests 5ppm Nitrate, not 0ppm. I have root tabs on all my plants, I use Flourish Excel and Comprehensive. With the additional lighting I think the plants will do great. I have already seen the plants start growing. My anubias has new leaves, the stem plants are starting to do a little better.

I don't want to change anything about the general hard scape of the tank. At this point I want to make my fish comfortable and add any new plants NOW so I don't have to touch the tanks for a few months. I want to get to the point where I only have to go in there for water changes, trimming, new root tabs and regular maintenance stuff.

I also have 2-3 weeks left on QTing the cories. Their doing really great right now, I just feel bad cause they have no substrate :/

After I get the plants and the lighting I want to address my Bolivian Ram situation. This is mainly because I personally think they have been doing a lot better now that they are separated. Both have been eating better although they are still adjusting to the water. They are still kind of pale. I have to add some more hiding areas to the 75 for the other ram. That's really the only changes I think i will make is just to make my fish more comfortable. The plecos kind of have taken the hiding areas right now because their just hogs so I want to make a decent sized cave somewhere so if anyone wants it they can have it. No big changes though. Anything that happens from here on after I deal with my plants will be strictly for the fish.

I feel as though i need to take care of the plants first so that they can keep the water pristine :D hahaha. I also think once the plants grow in the fish will have more hiding spots IN the plants.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
6,174 Posts
Sounds like a plan to me! You know I worry about you and your fishies over there :) I want everything to be PERFECT!!! I wonder if *some* of the paleness from the rams could possibly have to do with the fact that they're all alone and have nobody to 'talk' to? If there is nobody to prove dominance to, why put on the brights? Just a thought - I have no idea, and of course they'll still be adjusting for a while yet.

So then, as for planting. . . you're planning a true biotope at this point, right? Are you going to be putting area-specific plants in as well? Or just the fish?
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,014 Posts
Discussion Starter #20
Sounds like a plan to me! You know I worry about you and your fishies over there :) I want everything to be PERFECT!!! I wonder if *some* of the paleness from the rams could possibly have to do with the fact that they're all alone and have nobody to 'talk' to? If there is nobody to prove dominance to, why put on the brights? Just a thought - I have no idea, and of course they'll still be adjusting for a while yet.

So then, as for planting. . . you're planning a true biotope at this point, right? Are you going to be putting area-specific plants in as well? Or just the fish?
yeah I have no idea. Once I separated them, the one in the 75 never put his black spot back on. That's a good point you make there.

Byron, can you take a picture of your ram for us?! I would love to see that little guy!

I do want to do a full biotope BUT that would be unrealistic at this time because I don't want to spend a crazy amount of money on just plants. At the moment I just want the fish from the amazon. When I decide on the final stocking with the rams/discus issue w/e I will maybe do something then. I don't want to change anything right now.
 
1 - 20 of 257 Posts
Top