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Well it could take a while for me, my ammonia is still reading around 7.0-8.0 ppm, with no nitrite.

And I just made my first harvest of my whiteworm culture, and my fish love them. They don't seem to know how to eat them, but the gulped some of them down right when I put them in there. It took a while, but now I have another source of food for my fish.
 

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Wow, Angel079. Your tank really got invaded with java moss!:lol: I'll have to be careful with how much I put in.

Oh wait, I said "ammonia destroyer" earlier. I mean Algae Destroyer.
 

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Well it could take a while for me, my ammonia is still reading around 7.0-8.0 ppm, with no nitrite.

And I just made my first harvest of my whiteworm culture, and my fish love them. They don't seem to know how to eat them, but the gulped some of them down right when I put them in there. It took a while, but now I have another source of food for my fish.
I wonder if it would help to do like a 50% WC to get rid of some of that ammonia...might take a long time for the bb to build up enough to eat all that ammo then it will really take a long time to cycle.

Mine is cycling fine now, with a nitrite reading t hat's growing (no traceable nitrate but I bet I get a reading tomorrow). Still adding fish food. I'm just enjoying taking care of the plants in there. I figure if I can keep them alive for a few weeks then I deserve some fish :)
 

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Oh wait, I said "ammonia destroyer" earlier. I mean Algae Destroyer.
I really wouldn't suggest using that at all in a new tank set up. The problem with this stuff is, its masking your initial problem that's causing you algae. So time & again unless the initial problem is battled, its gonna come back and you'll use this stuff over & over and that's not good, specially not if you plan on having pretty live plants. Stop the cause, stop the algae. ;-)
 

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No, I was using Algae Destroyer in my other 10 gallon setup. In my new 29 gallon, I've only used water conditioner, Stress-Zyme, and clear ammonia.
 

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Ok, I just did a huge w/c, and the ammonia reading is now 4 ppm. Should cycle normally now!:-D
 

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Let's hope for the best for you and your fish :)
 

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How soon should I expect to see nitrites? I have a strip test kit for that, it's one of those Quick Dip 5-in-1 test strip kits, and it measures pH and hardness and (I'm guessing) alkalinity correctly, but I'm about to get a liquid nitrite test kit.
 

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Uhm on the strips, it'll take ya a while, won't show up on the strip until its way sky rocketing...if you could get a liquid test you'll see it go up much sooner. Usually if all is set up right, few days.
 

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I just put in my filter cartridge from my other tank, it's the same one I put in my tank a while earlier. I think I should take it out, my 10 gallon's beginning to suffer an algae invasion, and there's some in the filter... Would taking the filter cartridge and putting it in my 29 gallon transfer the algae problem between the tanks? There is a little algae growing on the cartridge.
 

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The algae will thrive only if there are conditions to support it. If you keep your 29 healthy then no. I transferred som java ferns from my friend's tank and it had all kinds of black beard algae, and it never spread. It just sort of went away. Because my tank is (knock on wood) healthy. I think algae is a symptom, not the problem (Angel079, would you agree with this?)
 

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What does your algae look like? Green spots, green slime? Black fuzz? Green thin hair?

Algae in new set ups is EXTREMELY common simply because of the system being out of balance at this point, add to this the rise & fall of ammonia's and NO's et volia a wonderful mixture for algae. So try describe what it looks like and i'll help you the best I can.
Just please do NOT mask this problem with chemicals now, that would be no good at all in a new set up.
 

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It's thin green hair-like algae. But it's longer than the previous algae I described, and isn't in little clumps.
 

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Oh ok, so its the same algae then before, no add new developing on top of that...I already suggested what to do about that few pages back, so just ride it out :)
 

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There's an API total kit at my LFS, but there's also an API nitrite test kit at the same LFS. The total kit costs $20, and the nitrite kit costs $10. Should I just buy the nitrite kit and wait until it tests 0 to add fish, or should I buy the whole kit so I can also test pH, hardness, and alkalinity? The total kit comes with another ammonia test kit, so I would have about 200 ammonia tests, but I've never needed to test for ammonia once my 10 gallon tank was cycled.
 

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Today, the reading is...

4 ammonia
0 nitrites :-(
0 nitrates

:-:)evil: My tank STILL isn't cycling!!! How is this possible?! I seeded my tank from my existing one, using gravel and filter material, I added commercial bacteria, I gave the bacteria plenty of ammonia to digest, and STILL nothing is happening! It's been about 3-4 days since I brought the ammonia down to 4.0, so they should have done something with it! I gave the tank an amount of ammonia from day 1! I don't know how much ammonia the fish food gave the tank, but there should be some nitrites! After 13 days, my tank has not cycled AT ALL. I think something's wrong! :-(
 

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Patience! Sometimes the cycle can take upwards of two or even three months. If indeed the ammonia levels were too high for even ammonia-eating bacteria to survive and this new, lower ammonia level has only been around for 3-4 days, you can consider yourself only 3-4 days into the cycle. Zero nitrites at 3-4 days in is pretty commonplace.
 

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Okay. :|:) That calms me down a little. At least I've got a little more experience in cycling tanks now. Always have a liquid test kit.:)
 

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There are refrigerated bacteria that work better than some of the non-refrigerated stuff (this is true for the brand i used anyway) that I've used to jump start cycling. I wonder if there's something about the type of ammonia or the strength or something. When I seeded from my 30 gallon to my 10 gallon I stuck a little jar of gravel from my old tank righ tunder the intake tube in my ten gallon filter. It worked after one or two days. I couldn't believe it.
 
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