Tropical Fish Keeping banner

1 - 20 of 26 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
292 Posts
Discussion Starter #1
So now that my goldfish moved to a pond, I need to fill up my 30 gallon!
What I have already gotten:

Bs pleco
Dalmation Molly
2 dwarf gourami
1 rainbow fish

I know that rainbow fish should be in schools but they're like $10!! So I'm seeing if this guy (isn't very colorful) is ok on his own, but if not I'll return him. I wanted to get barbs but I don't think that them and dwarf gourami are compatible?

I have a bio wheel penguin 150 on there as and HOB filter and I also put my top fin 20 on there for now but the propeller makes too much noise so I was planning to toss it? It has an air stone, silk plants, and gravel. ph is like 7.8 and it has a piece of driftwood in there. The lights are on 10 hours a day and are on a timer.

What else should I get? Anything I should know about the care of the current fish? I'm also hoping my family will let me get a 60 gallon soon, it's a battle. And if anything I also have a 20 planted tank.



Sent from Petguide.com Free App
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
679 Posts
The rainbow is likely too expensive to form a school. You may want to try aquabid and some of those breeders who may have rainbows at a more affordable rate.

As for cherry barbs, they would work with the gouramis. I would get 6-8 making half normal and half albino. They look great together.

You could also go with 6 ruby barbs, very neat fish that too many people overlook. It occurs to me you need a clean up crew, so red cherry shrimp would work, I'd get at least 12 of them. If not shrimp, corys would work well. I would also add a ramshorn or two to keep things under control.

The molly, it really should be paired up, but mollys are larger than I would go in that tank. If you can rehome the molly I would go with 6-10 male Endlers. Nothing like driving the gouramis insane. They should be fine as I have the same grouping.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
292 Posts
Discussion Starter #4
The rainbow is likely too expensive to form a school. You may want to try aquabid and some of those breeders who may have rainbows at a more affordable rate.

As for cherry barbs, they would work with the gouramis. I would get 6-8 making half normal and half albino. They look great together.

You could also go with 6 ruby barbs, very neat fish that too many people overlook. It occurs to me you need a clean up crew, so red cherry shrimp would work, I'd get at least 12 of them. If not shrimp, corys would work well. I would also add a ramshorn or two to keep things under control.

The molly, it really should be paired up, but mollys are larger than I would go in that tank. If you can rehome the molly I would go with 6-10 male Endlers. Nothing like driving the gouramis insane. They should be fine as I have the same grouping.
I now have 5 cherry barbs and no rainbow. They say Molly's are community not schooling, and it used to be in my 20. Maybe I'll get some albino barbs too :) I have the pleco for clean up? And some shrimp would be cool, small bioload too. I have Corey's in my 20, because they prefer sand. Endlers? Ramshorn? I've heard of that one a few times.


Sent from Petguide.com Free App
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
840 Posts
Before you toss your topfin, try cleaning the impeller assembly and lubricating the post that the magnet sits on with silicone... might reduce the noise a lot.
Good luck|
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
840 Posts
I use silicone spray. Completly disassemble the unit and only spray the post . Or if not, topfins are not that costly. I've heard of others using vaseline.
For shrimp there are mail order services, but id be worried about the extreme cold.

Best wishes for a beautiful and healthy tank!


Amazon mangrove forest... warmth and sun for a very cold time of the year.
Oh, your in arizona, probaly nice and warm there... one of my fav pics though!
 

Attachments

·
Registered
Joined
·
292 Posts
Discussion Starter #9
I use silicone spray. Completly disassemble the unit and only spray the post . Or if not, topfins are not that costly. I've heard of others using vaseline.
For shrimp there are mail order services, but id be worried about the extreme cold.

Best wishes for a beautiful and healthy tank!


Amazon mangrove forest... warmth and sun for a very cold time of the year.
Oh, your in arizona, probaly nice and warm there... one of my fav pics though!
I was thinking about doing that, but in the summer if be worried about the extreme heat, haha. Do you have any good place to order? Would eBay be good? Anywhere else is fine too. Maybe I should order from Amazon lol.


Sent from Petguide.com Free App
 

·
Member
Joined
·
454 Posts
Aquabid for the shrimp. They will use a heat pad in the winter, and icepack in the summer if needed. You might be able to find a seller close. Cherries are pretty hardy. Just don't get into the more difficult and sensitive ones when the weather is extreme. Watch your weather for a week where temps are mild. Ask your LFS to bring some in for you.
Or order them from Invertebrates by Msjinkzd on FB.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
292 Posts
Discussion Starter #11
Aquabid for the shrimp. They will use a heat pad in the winter, and icepack in the summer if needed. You might be able to find a seller close. Cherries are pretty hardy. Just don't get into the more difficult and sensitive ones when the weather is extreme. Watch your weather for a week where temps are mild. Ask your LFS to bring some in for you.
Or order them from Invertebrates by Msjinkzd on FB.
Thanks, and also there is someone on eBay selling 10 for $20 but they said that they are mixed with cherry shrimp and fire red shrimp? And instead of putting java moss they put Taiwan moss? Is that stuff good?


Sent from Petguide.com Free App
 

·
Member
Joined
·
454 Posts
You should be able to get cherries for $1.00 a piece. The fires are just brighter cherries, which may command a slightly higher price. Iit's nice to have different mosses if you like them. They are all somewhat different.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
292 Posts
Discussion Starter #13
You should be able to get cherries for $1.00 a piece. The fires are just brighter cherries, which may command a slightly higher price. Iit's nice to have different mosses if you like them. They are all somewhat different.
Hmm, that sounds like a good price! A lot of other people are selling them for over $3 a piece though!!!


Sent from Petguide.com Free App
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
292 Posts
Discussion Starter #14
Ok, I ordered 30 cherry shrimp, they were a dollar each but shipping was 12 so it ended up being $42!! But oh well.. I guess.. If they breed I have unlimited, right?


Sent from Petguide.com Free App
 

·
Member
Joined
·
454 Posts
Anytime you have something shipped, it is going to cost....just about. To me, I believe it is necessary to have them overnighted, which usually costs me at least double what you are paying or more. Especially when the temps are severe, like now. Heat packs do not last all that long. And if they are very far, always remember temps in the cargo hold of a plane are generally at least -20 degrees than ground temps.Cherries are pretty tough.
Hope it all goes well.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
292 Posts
Discussion Starter #16
Anytime you have something shipped, it is going to cost....just about. To me, I believe it is necessary to have them overnighted, which usually costs me at least double what you are paying or more. Especially when the temps are severe, like now. Heat packs do not last all that long. And if they are very far, always remember temps in the cargo hold of a plane are generally at least -20 degrees than ground temps.Cherries are pretty tough.
Hope it all goes well.
I hope too. They are way in Florida. And the weather is perfect here in AZ! So.. Ya...
And I was just about used to free shipping from Amazon and eBay XD

Sent from Petguide.com Free App
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
292 Posts
Discussion Starter #19
They came today! Some of them are actually red and others looks ghostly from the trip :) but I put the really little ones in a 1 gallon and the larger ones in my 20, would African dwarf frogs eat them? Are they temperature sensitive? The 1 gallon has no heater


Sent from Petguide.com Free App
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
292 Posts
Discussion Starter #20
Wow, I feel like I'm in trouble now.. So all the RCS are in a 1 gallon with an under gravel filter and a little heater. This is because my 20 gallon would be perfect except for the fact that it has ADF's who would eat them, they are all pretty small right now and alive :) but the 30 gallon still has the medical problems, I turned the temperature back to normal today, because I haven't seen any ich for a few days, but now one of dwarf gourami's had white spots... Dang... I'm out of ich treatment too. I'm turning it back up now. I put maybe 3 shrimp in there out of the 30 I have to test it out, I can't really find them but at least one made it though the night. I don't want them all dying because they were $42 and there aren't returns. I have large rocks in my 30 gallon as well so I don't think the frogs would do well in there. And the 20 has higher nitrates from some dead plant matter so I'm not sure if that's a problem..


Sent from Petguide.com Free App
 
1 - 20 of 26 Posts
Top