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post #11 of 20 Old 04-16-2015, 08:12 AM Thread Starter
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new lights are AMAZING....

I got one USA orbits 18-24" programmable LED for the 20 gallon bow front...programing was easy, and the tank likes the 30 minute ramp to moon light and 30 minute sun rise modes ( they are fully adjustable from 0 -30 minutes)... the cloud features are cool but the lightning storm scares the bejesus out of the fish( in the 75...no fish in the sea horse tank).. I'm not likely to use it.....I bought 2 more 48" Orbits USA programmable LED's for my main tank after "trying" just one strip as a complement to my t-5's.... the t-5's don't compare.. my singularia is much more flesh /pink colored than it was with the t-5's that left it looking yellow in comparison( even with 4 brand new bulbs)..I see much more polyp extension on it as well...my candy cane corals open wider and are much more colorful... for the first time since I've owned my ricordia( 9 months or so) I can see brilliant color in it... the colors are amazing... I always wondered what all the fuss was about with them...my anemone opens wide and has brilliant white tips under the new lights...my previously sad looking brain corals are regaining color and growing new flesh!... I am very happy thus far with these lights... I'll post pictures when I get a chance... as part of the upgrade I bought digital aquatics heater/chiller controllers for all 3 tanks ( I still have to give a LITTLE love to the fresh water tank).. .. ..I'm too deep in this hobby now not to protect my investment ....So aside from protecting from the heaters boiling my fish... I bought a Ice probe chiller for the sea horse tank to aid in summer time cooling ( I have no A/C in the house)...I am in the process of researching a reasonably priced chiller for my 75... last summer I had the main tank reach 87 a few times... so not wanting to make the ice bucket challenge part of this summers regime... I'm launching a preemptive strike... on a last note.... I know I shouldn't have.. .. but I bought a large ( 6") maxima clam for my Sea horse tank...I had enough GC's from a local fish store to buy it... It's about 8" below the new lights and for the time being seems happy.. the colors are magnificent.. I will monitor it closely...everything I have read says it needs a bigger tank.. but the larger the specimen the more forgiving they are towards their requirements... so if it outgrows the tank.. well.. I'll know what to do...and if I do see it seemingly not doing well... I've already talked to the owner of the store and he will take it back ( of coarse for a monetary loss on my part)...

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post #12 of 20 Old 04-16-2015, 11:21 AM
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As long as you have a quality full spectrum LED things will be Brighter in the future for you and the corals. The biggest problem I have with them is taking photographs, the color balance is waaayy off,Blues that hurt the eyes. I will post more later but I am on my way off to work.

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As long as you have a quality full spectrum LED things will be Brighter in the future for you and the corals. The biggest problem I have with them is taking photographs, the color balance is waaayy off,Blues that hurt the eyes. I will post more later but I am on my way off to work.
I hear ya..beauty of these is the spectrum( both white and blue) is fully adjustable...

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So are these units "Full Spectrum"> I know some boast that remark but many are far from it. I am contemplating taking down my AI Sols because of this, they are only 3 types of LEDs and I am not sure if it is performing as well as say some of my Ocean Revives or my custom built units with red,green,cyan,UV, 10K, Ect.

I even put a OR unit over my main tank for a minute to show a friend the OR and I started seeing colors on acros that I had not seen just like you mention with your corals. Hmmm the costs are the setbacks for me... and many other peoples.

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post #15 of 20 Old 04-20-2015, 11:40 AM Thread Starter
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duel actinic claiming 445 and 465 nm.... duel daylight 8K...12K....

I had a zoa colony in my sea horse tank... I took them out( prior to the light upgrade in there) because they were rarely opening..I had them high up under the light ( 1 10K t8).. I placed them in the old tank about 1/2 way down. Not are they only opening full.. I never resized how bright green the centers were...on another note.. my anemone.. has never really displayed "bubbles" on its tips before yesterday.. they were bright white.. fully extended but never bulbar in appearance.., they looked like little base balls yesterday .... I received the new lights one is defective and is being returned, right now I'm running 2 LED strips and one t-5... the tank has never looked better... long term .. we'll see if it works out...

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post #16 of 20 Old 04-22-2015, 08:29 AM Thread Starter
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sunset on the reef...

I took these last night as the tank prepared for nightfall.. the t-5's were out.. the rear set of LED's were 20 minutes into sunset.. while the front set were 5 minutes into the "fade"... I had one of the new LED strips fail as I was programming it ( right out of the box) i and am waiting for a replacement.. for now.. I have two LED's and one duel t-5 fixture which is on an 8 hour timer( I kind of like this set up and may use the 3rd LED on my freshwater tank ,thus keeping my current set up)... the LED are on a 12 hour cycle that includes 1/2 hour "sun rise" and one half hour sun set that fades to moon light that lasts for 4 hours..originally the moon light came programed for 10% intensity blue..0 white... I didn't like it.. so I knocked the blue down to 4% and added 2 % white..it looks a lot more natural...
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post #17 of 20 Old 05-05-2015, 07:51 AM Thread Starter
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Time marches on..

and things evolve and change...I've been vinegar dosing the main tank for a month now... I'm holding at 20ml of vinegar a day and haven't removed algae from my glass in 9 days...PH is holding steady at 8.4...cal. is at 420... Mag ( with a once a week 2 teaspoon supplement) stays around 1420... my dkh has been around 11 so I've gone to1 tsp per gallon of Kalk from 2/gal. to allow it to come down slowly...

I added a spiny cup patina to my tank ( my first sps. and it looks like it belongs there),,,it's high up and took the place of my red/green open brain coral... which... had been getting unmercifully harassed by my flame angel... it must be personal because it bothers no other coral in the tank.. I moved it over by my wells... the FA doesn't patrol that part of the tank... hopefully in a few days it will open...

my trumpet coral frag that I had given up for dead has rebounded and grew all it's flesh back on one head... it appears to be growing a second head...

the sea horse tank is maturing.....now that the controller is keeping the temp around 74-75.. they are MUCH more active... this picture was taken at feeding time...this morning.. my shadow had it retract but it was coming back out... when I took the picture..it has now attached it's foot to the live rock I provided...My gonipora have spread... and have taken over the rock they are on...

the main tank picture is from last week before the new corals.. the sea horse tank from this morning..
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post #18 of 20 Old 09-09-2015, 08:55 AM Thread Starter
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UPdate...

I'ts been a while since I've updated this.... time fly's!

My 20 G bowfront is addressed in my sea horse tank build..so that brings us to the 75 g... I need to take more pictures... things have changed ALOT in the past 4 months...

I lost 2 of my open brain corals... it seems that the constant harassment from the flame angel was more than they could take.. I moved the Wells to the sea horse tank but the lighting there is not strong enough.... hopefully moving it to my new 29 bio cube will save what's left of it...

everything else is doing awesome... my candy canes are huge and expanding.... my Singularia is beyond ridiculous .. it actually dropped branches that I traded for a hairy mushroom colony at the LFS....

the biggest changes come in the form of automation...I've done some plumbing rework.. I swapped out the Danner 2400 in sump pump for a Pan world 150PS external... 1100 GPH and capable of 28' of head... which has been an issue.. the display tank is 12' above the sump and goes through several 3/4 90 degree turns.. the Danner only provided 3 turns an hour because of this and required a second pump to run my Phose ban and carbon reactors...
Instead of drilling into my sump.. I opted to make a siphon driven intake 1 1/2" in diameter .. the closed loop keeps its siphon even when the pump is shut off during sock and skimmer service... this pump needed to be dialed back even when some of the flow was diverted to the reactors... I wish I had gone this route in the beginning... it's quieter.. more efficieant and I can run the tank up to 10 turns and hour( just short of overflow) if I desire with power to spare....
My next big change came in the plumbing of water change automation... I added a float to my R/O/D/I system so I can leave it with out fear of a flood... I now moved the salt water mix drum ( 35 gallon Rubbermaid) next to the R/O/D/I tank and hard piped it to my water manifold... I included check valves and ball valves as well as a TEE piped to a drain... now to change the water I open a few valves and the main pump pumps up to 20 gallons from the sump.. when the water gets to the low water level .. a switch shuts off the return pump.... I close one valve and open another.. I then flip the switch to the pump in the Salt mix drum and it flows into the sump... the sump begins to fill until the high level is reached and a float switch turns off the pump from the mix tank.. by this time the level has come up in the sump and the return pump is running... I close the ball valves and shut the main to that( mix tank) pump off.. it takes about the same amount of time to change the water as it does to clean the sock filter and skimmer...no hoses... no buckets...no problem... a small 250 GPH pump in the R/O/D/I tank replenishes the Salt mix drum shutting of at a prescribed level... I add the amount of salt I need and double check 24 hours latter...

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WOW that sounds like quite an upgrade, I can't imagine the Mag drive 2400 not being able to push enough water but I guess as you mentioned the elbows took away some needed GPH. I wish you lived closer and you could shoot me some ideas on my systems as you seem to have an eye for detail on your maintenance setup and procedure.

I love trading corals for corals, it makes things so much easier on the wallet and it gives a sense of accomplishment similar to a gardener. To an extent it is a form of aquatic gardening after all.

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WOW that sounds like quite an upgrade, I can't imagine the Mag drive 2400 not being able to push enough water but I guess as you mentioned the elbows took away some needed GPH. I wish you lived closer and you could shoot me some ideas on my systems as you seem to have an eye for detail on your maintenance setup and procedure.

I love trading corals for corals, it makes things so much easier on the wallet and it gives a sense of accomplishment similar to a gardener. To an extent it is a form of aquatic gardening after all.
I was pretty surprised because it was rated at 18' max.. it worked but but minimally also being in sump it provided a heat load and needed bi-monthly cleaning( the slimy bacteria formed from my vinegar dosing) to keep it at max capacity... then again...apples to oranges...I should have gone the "real " pump route the first time... I work with pumps every day here at work ( waste treatment and coolant supply pumps) why I didn't think of a siphon supply in the beginning is puzzling.. I love the system I have now.. I did have one tiny "mishap"... when I went down stairs yesterday morning... I saw a small stream of water hitting the wall opposite the sump... first thought my supply hose sprung a leak with all that extra power... it turns out.. with all my disturbing /moving hoses... I knocked the lock off the check valve for the ATO and it was only being held by one tab... now I have a nice kalkwasser stripe on the concrete!

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