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post #1 of 10 Old 12-12-2017, 06:32 AM Thread Starter
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Filtration for a 55 g community tank

Hey all - right now I have a Penn-Plax cascade 700 and a Marineland Penguin 350 for my 55 g. A Penn-plax 1000 just came on sale. Would it be over kill to have two Penn-plax filters running (I would take out the Marineland one)?

My husband thinks I'm crazy. I have a lot of tetras - about 50 overall of varying species, 4 corys, a betta, a bristlenose pleco, an oto (there were 4 but I seem to have lost at least 2 and the 3rd is MIA), a mystery snail and some nuisance pond snails that I take out when I find them. It's planted as well with Amazon sword, cabomba, corkscrew, anubias, marimo moss balls (like 6 of them) and water wysteria. My filtration needs are high in other words, but I don't want to go overkill.

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55 gallon planted community tank - cabomba, Amazon sword, corkscrew, water wysteria, anubias & male betta (Dory), mystery snail (Mr Snail), 4 corys (albino, green, panda & pepper), 4 otos, 1 bristlenose pleco, some ghost shrimp, tetras (glowlight, neon, black neon, gold skirt, rosy/candy cane, lamp/red eye) and a few unwanted pond snails. 5.5 gallon planted take for said unwanted snails, ghost shrimp & a male betta.
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post #2 of 10 Old 12-12-2017, 06:43 AM
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Well it wouldn't hurt but i imagine that the plants would be a major part in the nitrogen cycle of this tank... plus the betta may not appreciate the surface movement causes by the filter as it enters the tank...

Instead, if your looking for water movement i would suggest using a powerhead

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Right...I forgot that's why I didn't get a powerhead in the first place. I had someone recommend it for increasing the flow but knew the betta wouldn't like it. Thanks for the reminder! I'll stick with what I have. I don't need more water movement perse, it's more that I want to ensure it's cycling properly (yes the plants are a major part of it) and I've lost 3 or 4 fish in the last 3 days - I've dosed it with API Booster as I have BHA on my plants and read that CO2 issues can cause this...well, I had no fish loss before adding the CO2. I think I'll quit that and just try to deal with it another way. I'm old school when it comes to tanks - I find all the chemicals and such a bit confusing so I try to stick to what I know.

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What are you using for CO2? Do you happen to have a drop checker? Duration of it running?

You may be gassing your fish, or at least doses high enough that its not healthy for them.

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What are you using for CO2? Do you happen to have a drop checker? Duration of it running?

You may be gassing your fish, or at least doses high enough that its not healthy for them.

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I just tried the CO2 booster...I've never uses CO2 before. Totally new to me. Drop checker? I assume you mean a liquid test kit...have one on order. I've been using test strips but I keep getting weird reading and want something more accurate. Ive been trying to read up on CO2 but frankly I can't seem to wrap my head around it. I have MS and right now been having a lot of brain fog. It's frustrating as hell cause normally it wouldn't be this hard to figure it out.

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So your using liquid co2?

I was under the impression that you were using pressurised Co2 or even DIY using yeast - aka your not using the liquid CO2.

A drop checker is used to ensure that the CO2 levels in the water are not at a dangerous level for fish - this

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So your using liquid co2?

I was under the impression that you were using pressurised Co2 or even DIY using yeast - aka your not using the liquid CO2.

A drop checker is used to ensure that the CO2 levels in the water are not at a dangerous level for fish - this

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*facepalm* that's what those are for...ugh. I kept seeing them but had no idea what they were but knew they were for CO2. I'm so old school when it comes to tanks. We never had CO2 or anything. It's just since I've started back up this year that I realize there was so much more. So yes, I have liquid CO2 (API Booster), I've seen the DIY yeast, but again wasn't sure of how it really worked. Thank you for helping. I really appreciate it.

I so need to do more research...

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*facepalm* that's what those are for...ugh. I kept seeing them but had no idea what they were but knew they were for CO2. I'm so old school when it comes to tanks. We never had CO2 or anything. It's just since I've started back up this year that I realize there was so much more. So yes, I have liquid CO2 (API Booster), I've seen the DIY yeast, but again wasn't sure of how it really worked. Thank you for helping. I really appreciate it.

I so need to do more research...

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I forgot to mention, since your using liquid CO2 the drop checker isnt needed. :) If you were using anything else - good to have with DIY, but essential with pressurised - i may of suggested getting some.
Sorry for the confusion

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I forgot to mention, since your using liquid CO2 the drop checker isnt needed. :) If you were using anything else - good to have with DIY, but essential with pressurised - i may of suggested getting some.
Sorry for the confusion

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Ahhh ok. I'm going to hold off on adding more until the weekend. It's the only time I can do a decent water change and check my levels. I appreciate the help so much!

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Hey all - right now I have a Penn-Plax cascade 700 and a Marineland Penguin 350 for my 55 g. A Penn-plax 1000 just came on sale. Would it be over kill to have two Penn-plax filters running (I would take out the Marineland one)?



My husband thinks I'm crazy. I have a lot of tetras - about 50 overall of varying species, 4 corys, a betta, a bristlenose pleco, an oto (there were 4 but I seem to have lost at least 2 and the 3rd is MIA), a mystery snail and some nuisance pond snails that I take out when I find them. It's planted as well with Amazon sword, cabomba, corkscrew, anubias, marimo moss balls (like 6 of them) and water wysteria. My filtration needs are high in other words, but I don't want to go overkill.



Thanks!

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I have nothing to contribute with the CO2 discussion and all, but those two cascade filters combine for 450 gph. For a 55 gallon tank, that’s right where you want to be.

I prefer 2 (or more) canisters on everything 55 gallons and up. Were I you, I would have one filter pushing water across the back of the tank. I run that spraybar vertically in one corner, next to the intake. In the other corner I put the spraybar horizontally to push the water across the front of the tank. That way, each filter is moving water to the other filters intake, and this creates a linear flow of water in the tank, which is what most fish experience in the wild.

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