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post #1 of 5 Old 04-09-2015, 02:45 PM Thread Starter
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Guppies with Red in their poop

Question -

a. What does red in the poop mean? I have a guppy that has red, black & white poop. The others have black to white poop.

b. When I started medicating my tank, I noticed clear goo seemingly growing on the faces, around the mouth. I could not find any material for this, so I think I'm medicating for everything. I lost a male swordtail, but all other fish seem to be responding to treatment.

1. Size of tank? 15gal

2. Water parameters
a. Ammonia? 0
b. Nitrite? 0
c. Nitrate? 0
d. pH, KH and GH? pH 7.4-7.6
e. Test kit? API professional

3. Temperature? 84F

4. FW (fresh water) or BW (brackish)? Brackish: 1T / 5gal

5. How long the aquarium has been set up? 2.5 months

6. What fish do you have? How many are in your tank? How big are they? How long have you had them?
5 adult guppies: 2F, 3M
- one of the Fems had 8 babies which the 4 survivors are now four weeks old
4 neon tetras
2 algae eaters (smaller than 1")
1 corey cat (about 1")

7. Were the fish placed under quarantine period (minus the first batch from the point wherein the tank is ready to accommodate the inhabitants)?
3 guppies and 2 algae eaters are original. The others added later. I don't have a quarantine tank. Fish store water not added to my water, acclimation occurs in a bowl then fish are netted and placed.

8. a. Any live plants? Fake plants? 4 fake plants
b. Sand, gravel, barebottom? gravel
c. Rocks, woods, fancy decors? Any hollow decors? 1 rock with hollow structure, 1 clam.

9. a. Filtration? Currently bio-sponge + top mount corner filter without charcoal
b. Heater? yes, set to 84F

10. a. Lighting schedule? What lights are used? LED light. On when I wake up, off by 8pm.

b. Any sunlight exposure? How long? barely, but very indirect.

11. a. Water change schedule? Currently 5gal/day, and 10gal every 3 days - I'm medicating the tank.
b. Volume of water changed? see 11.

c. Well water, tap water, RO water? tap water
d. Water conditioner used? Stress coat. I also add anti-ammonia and Stress Zyme with each water change.
e. Frequency of gravel/sand (if any) vacuumed? top cleaning daily, deep clean every 2 weeks

12. Foods? tropical flakes, small feeding daily in the morning. once a week freeze dried worms
How often are they fed? see 12.

13. a. Any abnormal signs/symptoms? treating for unknown disease with Milapex, Pimafex, and anti-ich. I finished 10 days treating for ich, and after returning the charcoal filter some of the fish got a clear goo on their face and I noticed what could be described as fin rot or a fungus on the fins.
b. Appearance of poop? 2 guppies with red in their poop. Otherwise, the others appear to be okay.
c. Appearance of gills? At this time, gills look normal.

14. a. Have you treated your fish ahead of diagnosis? Yes, see 13.
b. What meds were used?

15. Insert photos of fish in question and full tank shot if necessary. No digital camera, thus no pictures.
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post #2 of 5 Old 04-09-2015, 03:22 PM
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I unfortunately do not know about the poop, but your stocking concerns me. There should be more FEMALES than MALE guppies at a 1:2 male to female ratio minimum. Are these algae eaters otocinclus catfish? There should be at least 4 more Cory cats. You're 15 gallon isn't large enough to hold all these fish and maybe you should reconsider your stock list.

46 Gallon Aquarium

1 Opaline Gourami
1 Angelfish
2 Bala Sharks
5 Bronze Corydoras
1 Gibbiceps Pleco
1 Pictus Catfish
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post #3 of 5 Old 04-11-2015, 11:52 AM
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My guppies poop is always red, but that is because I feed some red color flake food. What colors are the flakes you are feeding them? That is usually what makes their poop colored, is colorings in the foods they eat. What brand tropical flake? Have you recently purchased a new container of that flake? It varies a lot batch to batch, if this one has more red flakes than the last container, that may be the difference. Did the guppies that now have red poop not have red poop before? How long has their poop color been changed? Can you post a photo of the flake and the poop?

You only feed them once a day, one small feeding? That seems very minimal. Perhaps you could try feeding them more? If they are malnourished, they will be more susceptible to diseases. But, mine all have red poop, and have for a long time, and are very healthy, breeding, all fry surviving, etc.

Like Joey said, you do need more females. If any of the surviving fry are male, kill them, only keep them if they are female, that will fix that problem, unless they are both male, in which case you can hope the next fry born are female and the males do not harass the current females to death in the meantime. I successfully had a 3 males on 2 females tank after losing a female, and waited for fry, and now it's balanced (after culling male fry), but if your fish are stressed from a disease, your females might not be strong enough to wait that long. The males do harass the females half to death if there are not more females than males in the tank. Strong females survive at 1:1, but weak ones wont, and weak ones in lesser numbers than males stand even less of a chance. But you didn't come here asking for advice on how to stock guppies. So, post pics of your flake, and the poop, and if possible, the guppies themselves. Tell us the specific brand/type of flake, or list all the ingredients.
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post #4 of 5 Old 04-12-2015, 12:28 AM Thread Starter
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Phae - thank you for pointing me toward the tropical flakes. As I don't have a camera worth a darn for taking pictures of my fish or tank with any quality, the pictures are out of the question. As for the amount they are fed, I don't think they are truely underfed as there is no observed harrassment between any of the fish such as nipping at tails or fighting. My 5 adult guppies hang out quite harmoniously, so am not currently worried about fighting for female privileges or determining who the dominant female is. I cannot wait for the babies to grow up so I can see if they will be male or female. In my childhood I had guppy tanks that were assorted based on birth and death rates, they seemed to balance well and the guppies lived long happy lives. We'll see what happens this time around - and no, I cannot fathom killing or destroying any of the fish. If anything, I have a fishstore that will take my overages and provide me a credit toward store purchase, so no one dies and everyone gets a home.

By the way I have 3 cats and we foster for the local shelter. My wife is the local crazy cat lady.

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post #5 of 5 Old 04-13-2015, 10:21 PM
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Yeah, it's probably the flake color. I wouldn't consider red poop an indication of anything. Anyways, yeah, nice to meet another crazy catlady on here! I have an auto-feeder now, so I only fill it twice a week, but my guppies are fed 3 times a day. I dunno. They sure devour it all within 60 seconds, and that's what I think the guideline on the food said, to feed all they can eat under 2 minutes. I used to feed them less, and they seemed fine then to though.

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Phae - thank you for pointing me toward the tropical flakes. As I don't have a camera worth a darn for taking pictures of my fish or tank with any quality, the pictures are out of the question. As for the amount they are fed, I don't think they are truely underfed as there is no observed harrassment between any of the fish such as nipping at tails or fighting. My 5 adult guppies hang out quite harmoniously, so am not currently worried about fighting for female privileges or determining who the dominant female is. I cannot wait for the babies to grow up so I can see if they will be male or female. In my childhood I had guppy tanks that were assorted based on birth and death rates, they seemed to balance well and the guppies lived long happy lives. We'll see what happens this time around - and no, I cannot fathom killing or destroying any of the fish. If anything, I have a fishstore that will take my overages and provide me a credit toward store purchase, so no one dies and everyone gets a home.

By the way I have 3 cats and we foster for the local shelter. My wife is the local crazy cat lady.

Thank yoU!
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