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post #1 of 13 Old 03-16-2015, 12:30 PM Thread Starter
Unhappy Well i screwed that one up... tattered fins :-(

I 'figured' that my common pleco "Ted" (4") and my African Cichlids (2.5") would be okay together..... "ted" (my pleco) has some tattered tail fins this morning..... ugh!
It is not rot or poor water.... it was definatly some cichlid picking going on over the evening hours.
Ted is a real social pleco.... he is always out swimming around and sucking on everything in the tank... Im not really sure wich one or 'ones' are bugging him because when i am watching them... they all just leave him alone. I have seen bumblebee (my bumblebee african cichlid) pick at ted when they areboth trying to eat an algae wafer, but since i added the other african cichlids and moved the wafers... he hasnt bugged him.
Now what the heck do i do?????

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post #2 of 13 Old 03-16-2015, 12:55 PM
It was the bumblebee. The only cichlid I have ever had that held his own against a common pleco. The other cichlids are a distraction for the bumblebee. Eventually, the bumblebee will get super aggressive towards everything in the tank, and will become much larger than the rest of the cichlids.
How big is the tank?
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post #3 of 13 Old 03-16-2015, 01:04 PM
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Depending on how bad the fins are you could move him to a hospital tank for him to recover. If you do that you could do water changes 3-4 times a week making sure the water is super clean and making sure he is eating well because he will be the only one in the tank. But it you wanted to keep him in the community tank he could okay after you work out who the trouble maker is. Just make sure you are doing water changes.

As for finding out who the trouble maker is maybe go down 15 mins or so after the lights are out with a flash light and see if you see anything. I have sit in a almost dark room before to watch the fish and see what they are doing. So "sneaking" up on fish wouldn't be the weirdest thing I have done. I would assume it's one of the Africa ciclids they are known to be aggressive.

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post #4 of 13 Old 03-16-2015, 01:19 PM Thread Starter
it is most clearly bumblebee..... he really is an ass. lol
he has picked on poor ted since bunblebee was only less than an inch.... and the only reason i got him was because he was getting his butt kicked in a tank with other bumblee cichlids
i figured he would have just been more submissive ..... guess not. i was totally wrong.
His tail and dorsal (Ted) has had it tattered by bumble early on and it healed in like a day or 2 when i added other fish as a distraction
Is there any way i can do anything to help them 'get along'? like anoy other fish combo to add to help?

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Is there any way i can do anything to help them 'get along'? like anoy other fish combo to add to help?

That is a hard question to answer. I have seen fish calm down if you add more to the tank but I have also seen the new ones join in on the picking. I have also tried to remove the trouble makers from the tank to have others step up and take their place. I have read where some people will add fish like Black skirt tetra that school(6 total) this will give the aggressive fish something to case but with 6 he won't always be casing the same one.

One of my common plecos was picked on by my blood parrot when ever he came out of his cave. I didn't think to much about it because he wasn't out often so didn't think it was a issue. But I noticed he wasn't growing like the other one. So I moved him to a different tank and he swims around a LOT more and is growing well again.

You might be able to add more hiding places for the pleco or if the option is there move him to another tank. The aggression of the cichlids is a major reason I got the Raphael catfish they have armor and could defend them self if are picked on. Just need those little guys to grow faster.


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so basically I need to take bumblee out...... i think at adult size they grow 6" ??? a total guess. Looks like i am going to be having to buy him a bigger tank for himself!! what size would he be okay in? the bathtub? lol kidding...

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so basically I need to take bumblee out...... i think at adult size they grow 6" ??? a total guess. Looks like i am going to be having to buy him a bigger tank for himself!! what size would he be okay in? the bathtub? lol kidding...
Taking him out would be a good option but I honestly only have a passing knowledge on Africa cichlids, I have been studying Central and South Americans cichlids.

I did a quick search and it looks like they can get up to 8" that's huge for a African cichlid for sure most are 4-5". With him getting that big a 75g would be a good choice. Might be able to do a 55g if he is alone but that would be a call for someone that knows them more. I have a local store that does the $1 per gallon sale up to 75g where most places stop at 55g. If you can get lucky and have some place do the same I would grab a 75g for sure.


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post #8 of 13 Old 03-16-2015, 06:17 PM Thread Starter
how long could i house him in a 20 gallon?

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post #9 of 13 Old 03-16-2015, 06:36 PM
Yeah, I won't even keep Bumblebees anymore, They are a NIGHTMARE as far as compatibilty goes once they get closer to adult age...
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post #10 of 13 Old 03-16-2015, 06:55 PM
I have a bumblebee that is easily 8" long. He would eventually need a 55 or 65, almost to himself.
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