PH? - Page 2 - Tropical Fish Keeping - Aquarium fish care and resources
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #11 of 22 Old 04-12-2018, 09:17 PM
New Member
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
Sorry for taking so long to answer...been a crazy week. 30 X 12.5 X 18.75 inches. My tank is pretty much completely cycled, ph is 6.0-6.2. Ammonia is a trace (under .25) NO2 is virtually 0, and no3 is about 40. It is a test kit. not a strip. 5ml of water. X drops of solution, wait 5 min, etc. Other than the PH it seem stable over the last 7 days. PH keeps dropping. after a water change it's like 6.4, and slowly drops to 6. Also It has gotten cloudy the last week or so. Not sure why. My levels are good, and I don't think I'm over feeding.
Your tank without gravel holds 30.44 gallons. The other readings besides pH aren't bad. The ph is of course rather low. I'd be interested in knowing the pH of you tap water that has had a chance to naturally degas by open evaporation in a cup or clen jar. If you tap is too soft, it can be safely buffered and stabilized with the addition of crushed coral. If the pH is below 7.0 of your degassed tap water is too soft and needs some natural buffering. Hit me back with the tap water and let me know if youu have access to an aquarium shop to get a small amount of crushed coral. In case you need to use the coral, it wouldn't hurt to stop by a pharmacy or dollar and pick up a pair of ladies knee high nylon stockings...much cheaper than mesh bags from pet shop and work just as well. They also work well rubber banded over filter intak tube when there are small fry in the tank.

Sent from my LGMS210 using Tapatalk
drjallen3 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #12 of 22 Old 04-12-2018, 09:25 PM
New Member
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by drjallen3 View Post
Your tank without gravel holds 30.44 gallons. The other readings besides pH aren't bad. The ph is of course rather low. I'd be interested in knowing the pH of you tap water that has had a chance to naturally degas by open evaporation in a cup or clen jar. If you tap is too soft, it can be safely buffered and stabilized with the addition of crushed coral. If the pH is below 7.0 of your degassed tap water is too soft and needs some natural buffering. Hit me back with the tap water and let me know if youu have access to an aquarium shop to get a small amount of crushed coral. In case you need to use the coral, it wouldn't hurt to stop by a pharmacy or dollar and pick up a pair of ladies knee high nylon stockings...much cheaper than mesh bags from pet shop and work just as well. They also work well rubber banded over filter intak tube when there are small fry in the tank.

Sent from my LGMS210 using Tapatalk
Oh, the cloudiness is probably because of million of free floating bacteria feeding on ammonia and nitrites. They usually will eventually stick to the filter medium and gravel...water changes help the process along. If it continues for more than a week, a floculant may be needed. I suggest Water Clarifier by Aqueon. But give it some time first.

Sent from my LGMS210 using Tapatalk
drjallen3 is offline  
post #13 of 22 Old 04-13-2018, 12:26 AM
Member
 
jaysee's Avatar
 
PH?

Cloudy is either a bacterial bloom or an algae bloom. In the case of a bacterial bloom, it is NOT the beneficial bacteria that lives in your filter. You donít ever see that bacteria in the water because they live and breed on surfaces, feeding on the water that passes by. The bacteria in the bloom is an airborne strain that dies off in the water, after gorging on excess ammonia. Once the food is gone they go too. Water changes have a tendency to not impact bacterial blooms because of the rapid reproduction rate. You simply canít remove all the bacteria from the water and they multiply. Beneficial bacteria, by contract, are one of the slowest growing bacteriaís on earth, taking an entire day to double in size.

Thereís a third cause of cloudiness and thatís suspended particulates in the water. Water changes will help that as long as the process doesnít stir things up. Water clarifier will also help with that, but thatís a last resort in my opinion.


Donít get zucked! Stand up to censorship! Someone elseís voice silenced today, yours tomorrow.....

125 - BGK, chanchito cichlid, pictus cats, silver dollars, palmas bichir
125 - cichlids (severums, bolivian rams, chocolate), rainbows ( turquoise, red), loaches (angelicus, zebra, kuhli and horseface), plecos (BN, RL and clown), denison barbs, tiretrack eel, pearl gouramis, betta
90 - Congo tetras, african knife, upside down cats, spotted ctenopoma, kribensis, delhezzi bichir
2.5 - betta
jaysee is offline  
 
post #14 of 22 Old 04-14-2018, 02:22 PM Thread Starter
New Member
 
Aquarium
Quote:
Originally Posted by drjallen3 View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
Sorry for taking so long to answer...been a crazy week. 30 X 12.5 X 18.75 inches. My tank is pretty much completely cycled, ph is 6.0-6.2. Ammonia is a trace (under .25) NO2 is virtually 0, and no3 is about 40. It is a test kit. not a strip. 5ml of water. X drops of solution, wait 5 min, etc. Other than the PH it seem stable over the last 7 days. PH keeps dropping. after a water change it's like 6.4, and slowly drops to 6. Also It has gotten cloudy the last week or so. Not sure why. My levels are good, and I don't think I'm over feeding.
Your tank without gravel holds 30.44 gallons. The other readings besides pH aren't bad. The ph is of course rather low. I'd be interested in knowing the pH of you tap water that has had a chance to naturally degas by open evaporation in a cup or clen jar. If you tap is too soft, it can be safely buffered and stabilized with the addition of crushed coral. If the pH is below 7.0 of your degassed tap water is too soft and needs some natural buffering. Hit me back with the tap water and let me know if youu have access to an aquarium shop to get a small amount of crushed coral. In case you need to use the coral, it wouldn't hurt to stop by a pharmacy or dollar and pick up a pair of ladies knee high nylon stockings...much cheaper than mesh bags from pet shop and work just as well. They also work well rubber banded over filter intak tube when there are small fry in the tank.

Sent from my LGMS210 using Tapatalk
My "out of the tap" ph is about a 6.8. I filled a glass, and just have it sitting on my counter with a paper towel on top, to keep the dust and stuff out. I'll check it daily, and see where it goes.

As far as the cloudiness, I do have to say, I probably leave the light on too much, so I started shutting it off more often, and for longer periods of time. I do have an led light, it goes from white light to blue light. I do want to avoid adding chemicals, so I'll try this first, and see what happens over the next week or so.
Swoop is offline  
post #15 of 22 Old 04-14-2018, 03:00 PM
New Member
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
My "out of the tap" ph is about a 6.8. I filled a glass, and just have it sitting on my counter with a paper towel on top, to keep the dust and stuff out. I'll check it daily, and see where it goes.

As far as the cloudiness, I do have to say, I probably leave the light on too much, so I started shutting it off more often, and for longer periods of time. I do have an led light, it goes from white light to blue light. I do want to avoid adding chemicals, so I'll try this first, and see what happens over the next week or so.
I'm not just a 30 year veteran to aquarium keeping, but I'm also a retired Chemist. I'm not afraid of using any commercial products as long as they list their ingredients. Don't get me wrong, I much more recommend natural answers to aquarium conditions...and sometimes it's as simple as telling someone to be patient and wait. I will admit that I really think about someone's situation before recommending antibiotics. If it's the only way to save a fish's life, I will, but even then I ask if the person has another container and aeration to do it in. Otherwise the whole biological filtration may be killed. If I ever recommend a product for any reason, will be able to assure it's safe. I totally recommend chlorine and chloramine removers for tap water changes.

Sent from my LGMS210 using Tapatalk
drjallen3 is offline  
post #16 of 22 Old 04-14-2018, 04:02 PM Thread Starter
New Member
 
Aquarium
Quote:
Originally Posted by drjallen3 View Post
I'm not just a 30 year veteran to aquarium keeping, but I'm also a retired Chemist. I'm not afraid of using any commercial products as long as they list their ingredients. Don't get me wrong, I much more recommend natural answers to aquarium conditions...and sometimes it's as simple as telling someone to be patient and wait. I will admit that I really think about someone's situation before recommending antibiotics. If it's the only way to save a fish's life, I will, but even then I ask if the person has another container and aeration to do it in. Otherwise the whole biological filtration may be killed. If I ever recommend a product for any reason, will be able to assure it's safe. I totally recommend chlorine and chloramine removers for tap water changes.

Sent from my LGMS210 using Tapatalk
I use imagitarium water conditioner, and biologiccal boostar at evert water change. The water conditioner "removes chlorine, and chloramine, detoxifies heavy metals, adds essential electrolytes, and helps to replace lost or missing slime coat" And Bio booster "contains a team v essential live bacteria" both say to use at water changes. I change the water pretty much every saturday night, or sunday afternoone, depending on my work schedule, and I usually change about 7.5 gallons. Also I usually vacuum the tank (suction tube" at the same time, to keep down all the funk, and gunk at the bottom. Before I water change, and vacuum, I scrape the sides, if I have any algae or buildup on it.
Swoop is offline  
post #17 of 22 Old 04-14-2018, 04:19 PM
New Member
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
I use imagitarium water conditioner, and biologiccal boostar at evert water change. The water conditioner "removes chlorine, and chloramine, detoxifies heavy metals, adds essential electrolytes, and helps to replace lost or missing slime coat" And Bio booster "contains a team v essential live bacteria" both say to use at water changes. I change the water pretty much every saturday night, or sunday afternoone, depending on my work schedule, and I usually change about 7.5 gallons. Also I usually vacuum the tank (suction tube" at the same time, to keep down all the funk, and gunk at the bottom. Before I water change, and vacuum, I scrape the sides, if I have any algae or buildup on it.
That all sounds perfect to me. I use Aqueon Water Conditioner with water changes. It too detoxifies heavy metals and takes care of th chlorine and chloramine. My tap water has the perfect hardness and a pH of 7.0 from the tap so I don't require any extre electrolytes. I also buy 2 gallons of distilled water to replace 2 gallons of tank water. Even with proper water water changes using tap water, there is always the possibility of flouride build up. It doesn't evaporate and water conditioners don't get get rid of it.

Sent from my LGMS210 using Tapatalk
drjallen3 is offline  
post #18 of 22 Old 04-14-2018, 04:51 PM
New Member
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by drjallen3 View Post
That all sounds perfect to me. I use Aqueon Water Conditioner with water changes. It too detoxifies heavy metals and takes care of th chlorine and chloramine. My tap water has the perfect hardness and a pH of 7.0 from the tap so I don't require any extre electrolytes. I also buy 2 gallons of distilled water to replace 2 gallons of tank water. Even with proper water water changes using tap water, there is always the possibility of flouride build up. It doesn't evaporate and water conditioners don't get get rid of it.

Sent from my LGMS210 using Tapatalk
...I only do the 2 gallons of distilled water once a month.

Sent from my LGMS210 using Tapatalk
drjallen3 is offline  
post #19 of 22 Old 04-15-2018, 12:53 PM Thread Starter
New Member
 
Aquarium
I was going to do my water change today. But I forgot I was getting my water to the house turned off to fix a leak..lol. Guess I'll do it tomorrow, or later if the water is back on (Might not be till tuesday) Regardlless I dd pick up another plant, and some snails today (nerite), I have a plant already, but my fish are decimating it, so I figure either another will spread out the damage, and let the plants repair on their own, or they will kill this one too, and I'll have to figure out why they are sooo agressive towards my plant.
Swoop is offline  
post #20 of 22 Old 04-15-2018, 01:21 PM
New Member
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
I was going to do my water change today. But I forgot I was getting my water to the house turned off to fix a leak..lol. Guess I'll do it tomorrow, or later if the water is back on (Might not be till tuesday) Regardlless I dd pick up another plant, and some snails today (nerite), I have a plant already, but my fish are decimating it, so I figure either another will spread out the damage, and let the plants repair on their own, or they will kill this one too, and I'll have to figure out why they are sooo agressive towards my plant.
Good going. As far as the plants go, try adding a nice rinced lettuce leaf once in awhile. It will stay fresh all day. You may have to weight it dorn with a small rock. Remove it at night. The critters will continue to munch on fish food too, but herbivores and omnivores like fresh greens once in awhile. Just make sure when you remove it, there are no snails (or eggs) attached to it. Do this a couple times a week and it may give your plants a foothold and some growth before the nibblers start on them.

Sent from my LGMS210 using Tapatalk
drjallen3 is offline  
Reply

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome