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post #1 of 14 Old 10-20-2017, 02:06 AM Thread Starter
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I was just reading an article in World Book Millennium Edition 2000. The Article is called "Aquarium". I noticed some things that I know to be false but also that I know to be still in common circulation.
Here are a few of the things:
1.The new aquarium is ready for fish after 2-3 days.
This is false because the tank needs fully cycle before fish can be added.
2.Neon tetras are good beginner breeding fish.
This is false because the neon tetra is notoriously hard to breed.
3.Fish should be fed twice a day with the amount of food they can consume in 10 minutes.
This is false because if you gave your fish that amount of food they would be extremely unhealthy and your water would be filled with unwanted chemicals from decomposing food and a lot of fish waste.
4.You can have 1 inch of fish per gallon of aquarium water.
This is false because you can be highly overstocked by the time you get to 1 in/gal.
Comment below on any fish myths you've heard and also why you think they are false.

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post #2 of 14 Old 10-20-2017, 05:51 AM
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Well. They not wrong. Tanks can cycle quickly, even without using established media. Ive had tanks in the past that cycled in as little as 3 days since setting up. Its rare, but it does happen.

Neon tetras are fairly easy to breed providing you have the right conditions. The hardest thing is to feed the fry, since they so small.

1 inch per gallon is a good stocking ratio for smaller fish, under an inch in size and need a school/shoal... it really depends.

For growing fry, you need to feed in large quantities ( aka regular small feeds through out the day) to ensure growth and development. I personally feed my fish flake in a 2 min interval every couple of days, however larger things such as tablets i leave for up to an hour... if they still there i tend to remove...

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post #3 of 14 Old 10-20-2017, 05:54 AM
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The biggest myth i hear is that waterchanges arent needed... sigh

Fish grow to the size of the tank ( which is true, but not ideal at all)

Goldfish can be kept in small tanks (many fish shops in aus tend to make people steer clear of bowls) and bettas can be kept in small unfiltered/ heated tanks..


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post #4 of 14 Old 10-20-2017, 06:07 AM
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Ugh, I hate that myth about fish growing to the size of the tank. I see it plastered everywhere.


Yes, their bodies stop growing but their organs do not. They eventually suffocate themselves essentially or cannot process their foods or literally crush their hearts. It's not good and they die prematurely still.


But yeah, those "facts" in OPs post, they can be true but it's very situational and does not apply as an overarching "fact". Very little actually does apply for an overarching fact except for something like, fish need water to survive lol. Even then! Lung fish, Mudskippers, Anabantoids, they can all survive quite a time without water lol, I mean...eventually they'll die but see the point?

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Not trying to pick a fight, but what evidence is there that the organs of a stunted fish continue to grow?? I feel like that’s one of those “the ends justify the means” deals, like that a fish’s stomach is the size of its eye thing - it’s okay if we make something up in order to bolster a righteous position. I’m certainly not suggesting anyone here made those things up, but just because it gets repeated over and over doesn’t make it true. A while back I dissected some of my fish in order to prove to someone that the stomach is in fact MUCH larger than the fish’s eye. Didn’t sway them one bit - if I recall correctly they tried to get me banned for it. Yeah, that’s okay - try to get someone banned for producing incontrovertible evidence to the contrary of their assertion - yeah, that’s a perfectly normal response

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Not trying to pick a fight, but what evidence is there that the organs of a stunted fish continue to grow?? I feel like that’s one of those “the ends justify the means” deals, like that a fish’s stomach is the size of its eye thing - it’s okay if we make something up in order to bolster a righteous position. I’m certainly not suggesting anyone here made those things up, but just because it gets repeated over and over doesn’t make it true. A while back I dissected some of my fish in order to prove to someone that the stomach is in fact MUCH larger than the fish’s eye. Didn’t sway them one bit - if I recall correctly they tried to get me banned for it. Yeah, that’s okay - try to get someone banned for producing incontrovertible evidence to the contrary of their assertion - yeah, that’s a perfectly normal response


I agree with you on the eye-stomach thing. I've also dissected fish as well. There is no eye to stomach correlation as far as I know but yet, as we've discussed, the myths get passed around.


I'd found some articles on the discussion of organs some time ago. It will take me a bit to find them again but I'll try to do so as soon as I can. Currently at work so internet is limited.

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I agree with you on the eye-stomach thing. I've also dissected fish as well. There is no eye to stomach correlation as far as I know but yet, as we've discussed, the myths get passed around.


I'd found some articles on the discussion of organs some time ago. It will take me a bit to find them again but I'll try to do so as soon as I can. Currently at work so internet is limited.
Thanks, lil. Look forward to seeing. I've found such assertions on forums, blogs, FB, etc., but haven't found any actual scientific studies with autopsies. Would love to be able to bookmark such work.
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Like Lilnaugrim, im pretty sure i saw an article that someone linked on here about it...
Regardless, Ill wait to see if its the same.

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I've never heard the "fish's eye is the size of their stomach" one. Funny!

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I've never heard the "fish's eye is the size of their stomach" one. Funny!


That’s gospel amongst many Betta keepers. Maybe that’s why

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