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post #1 of 8 Old 01-22-2019, 05:14 PM Thread Starter
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Question Cycling with filter medium question

I have been out of the hobby for bout 15 years. Setting up a new tank and a friend has established tanks. They live about 20 minutes away and it is winter. How much time do I have to transport some filter media or gravel to our house and get in the tank.

Probably over thinking it, but want to hit ground with little issues. Tank will be planted as well before I get the gravel or filter media.

Should we then just put in some in a few fish or shrimp to keep the cycle going?
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post #2 of 8 Old 01-22-2019, 06:52 PM
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Just keep it wet and try to keep it from getting cold. It's a living animal so to speak, treat it the same. Adding a few fish might be a good idea. Just don't overload or it will break the cycle.
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post #3 of 8 Old 01-22-2019, 07:14 PM Thread Starter
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Just keep it wet and try to keep it from getting cold. It's a living animal so to speak, treat it the same. Adding a few fish might be a good idea. Just don't overload or it will break the cycle.
No intention to. Have a Betta and 2 White Clouds in a tiny 3 gallon Betta tank that I may move.
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post #4 of 8 Old 01-23-2019, 11:31 AM
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I have been out of the hobby for bout 15 years. Setting up a new tank and a friend has established tanks. They live about 20 minutes away and it is winter. How much time do I have to transport some filter media or gravel to our house and get in the tank.

Probably over thinking it, but want to hit ground with little issues. Tank will be planted as well before I get the gravel or filter media.

Should we then just put in some in a few fish or shrimp to keep the cycle going?

IMHO transferring established medium is not needed.


I would start the tank with plants and take it easy.


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maintain Fw and marine system with a strong emphasis on balanced, stabilized system that as much as possible are self substaning.

have maintained FW systems for up to 9 years with descendants from original fish and marine aquariums for up to 8 years.

With no water changes, untreated tap water, inexpensive lighting by first starting the tank with live plants (FW) or macro algae( marine)

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post #5 of 8 Old 01-25-2019, 01:09 PM
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Plants certainly make cycling safer as they suck up some of the dangerous waste products. But why risk the fish's health when you have access to a bacteria colony. Fishless cycles and starting with bacteria are faster and safer. As someone who has lung damage due to ammonia burn, I'd say it's not okay to risk putting anything through that. I used to work at farms that were not properly vented. Hope it works out well. Let us know if you learn any new tricks for cold weather transportation! That's always a concern in WNY.
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post #6 of 8 Old 01-25-2019, 02:36 PM
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Plants certainly make cycling safer as they suck up some of the dangerous waste products. But why risk the fish's health when you have access to a bacteria colony. Fishless cycles and starting with bacteria are faster and safer. As someone who has lung damage due to ammonia burn, I'd say it's not okay to risk putting anything through that. I used to work at farms that were not properly vented. Hope it works out well. Let us know if you learn any new tricks for cold weather transportation! That's always a concern in WNY.
Understand and respect your concerns. IMHO and IME you're just plain wrong. An aquarium started with tons of plant life will consume the ammonia directly, remove co2 and add oxygen. Much safer for the fish.


still that's just my .02

maintain Fw and marine system with a strong emphasis on balanced, stabilized system that as much as possible are self substaning.

have maintained FW systems for up to 9 years with descendants from original fish and marine aquariums for up to 8 years.

With no water changes, untreated tap water, inexpensive lighting by first starting the tank with live plants (FW) or macro algae( marine)

see: https://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/a...-build-295530/
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post #7 of 8 Old 01-26-2019, 10:28 AM Thread Starter
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Do I need to worry about under population

So tank setup, but because of the weather (super cold) over next week my order of plants wont be for 2 weeks.

Friend surprised me and ran over good sized used sponge filter. Now I am wondering do I have to worry about the tank being under populated to support the colony on the sponge filter.

Tank has the 2 white clouds and 1 betta. Should we run out and get a few more fish to give the filter more to feed on.
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post #8 of 8 Old 01-28-2019, 03:01 PM
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wait for the plants to come in and get established.

maintain Fw and marine system with a strong emphasis on balanced, stabilized system that as much as possible are self substaning.

have maintained FW systems for up to 9 years with descendants from original fish and marine aquariums for up to 8 years.

With no water changes, untreated tap water, inexpensive lighting by first starting the tank with live plants (FW) or macro algae( marine)

see: https://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/a...-build-295530/
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