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post #1 of 9 Old 04-22-2018, 07:37 PM Thread Starter
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I have a question or 2. I have a tank...it's been running 2 months, maybe 3. My levels are good, (ammonia, almost 0, nitrate 0, nitrate 60, ph is low at a 6.2) I have couldiness in my tank that is driving me NUTS!!!

I have a river stone substrate, which I have decided I do not like. I ordered a coated bllack sand for the substrate, which I will change out, when it comes in. I also ordered 2 big coral rocks (Not live) to put in as my centerpiece. Hopefully that will help with the PH. I was wondering, if that doesn't help with the couldiness, has anyone ever gotten a "green killing machine" https://www.chewy.com/aa-aquarium-gr...hine/dp/158403 I have read that they are good, and it doesn't seem like it can hurt. I'm trying to stay as chemical free as possible.

Also. Has anyone ever used the alert testers? They stay in the tank 24/7, and last like a year. Constantly moniter PH, and Ammonia. my main question is, are they accurate?

Thanks guys, this cloudiness is driving me up the damn wall!! I need it gone! :P
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post #2 of 9 Old 04-23-2018, 09:46 AM
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Hey,


I have a question or 2. I have a tank...it's been running 2 months, maybe 3. My levels are good, (ammonia, almost 0, nitrate 0, nitrate 60, ph is low at a 6.2) I have couldiness in my tank that is driving me NUTS!!!

I have a river stone substrate, which I have decided I do not like. I ordered a coated bllack sand for the substrate, which I will change out, when it comes in. I also ordered 2 big coral rocks (Not live) to put in as my centerpiece. Hopefully that will help with the PH. I was wondering, if that doesn't help with the couldiness, has anyone ever gotten a "green killing machine" https://www.chewy.com/aa-aquarium-gr...hine/dp/158403 I have read that they are good, and it doesn't seem like it can hurt. I'm trying to stay as chemical free as possible.

Also. Has anyone ever used the alert testers? They stay in the tank 24/7, and last like a year. Constantly moniter PH, and Ammonia. my main question is, are they accurate?

Thanks guys, this cloudiness is driving me up the damn wall!! I need it gone! :P
I'm a retired Chemist that has been an aquarium hobbyist for over 30 years. I too look for answers without using chemicals, but as long as they list the ingredients on the box or bottle, I do use chemicals when all else fails. The products that are used to get rid of cloudiness are known as "floculants" that causes smaller particles to stick together so the filter can grab them and so they can settle. The floculant that I use and trust as safe is Aqueon Water Clarifyer. Once the dosage is added, it takes 24 hours to clear the cloudiness. If it hasn't cleared after 24 hours, you can safely do one more treatment. After that, don't use it again because something else is going on. There may be too much organic material in the gravel causing growth explosions of bacteria and protozoa growth. But give the water clarifier a chance. It won't harm the fish or your biological system.

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I'm a retired Chemist that has been an aquarium hobbyist for over 30 years. I too look for answers without using chemicals, but as long as they list the ingredients on the box or bottle, I do use chemicals when all else fails. The products that are used to get rid of cloudiness are known as "floculants" that causes smaller particles to stick together so the filter can grab them and so they can settle. The floculant that I use and trust as safe is Aqueon Water Clarifyer. Once the dosage is added, it takes 24 hours to clear the cloudiness. If it hasn't cleared after 24 hours, you can safely do one more treatment. After that, don't use it again because something else is going on. There may be too much organic material in the gravel causing growth explosions of bacteria and protozoa growth. But give the water clarifier a chance. It won't harm the fish or your biological system.

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I forgot to comment on your coral rock. That won't necessarily do much for the cloudiness, but it's an excellent natural buffer to help in stabilizing your pH levels.

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I have a question or 2. I have a tank...it's been running 2 months, maybe 3. My levels are good, (ammonia, almost 0, nitrate 0, nitrate 60, ph is low at a 6.2) I have couldiness in my tank that is driving me NUTS!!!

I have a river stone substrate, which I have decided I do not like. I ordered a coated bllack sand for the substrate, which I will change out, when it comes in. I also ordered 2 big coral rocks (Not live) to put in as my centerpiece. Hopefully that will help with the PH. I was wondering, if that doesn't help with the couldiness, has anyone ever gotten a "green killing machine" https://www.chewy.com/aa-aquarium-gr...hine/dp/158403 I have read that they are good, and it doesn't seem like it can hurt. I'm trying to stay as chemical free as possible.

Also. Has anyone ever used the alert testers? They stay in the tank 24/7, and last like a year. Constantly moniter PH, and Ammonia. my main question is, are they accurate?

Thanks guys, this cloudiness is driving me up the damn wall!! I need it gone! :P


Is the cloudiness greenish or whitish? Green means algae and white means bacteria. Particulates in the water are also whitish. Determining that will tell you how to proceed.

I run green killing machines on my tanks 24/7 because I am a fan of UV filtration. I know it wipes out algae blooms but I donít know about a bacterial bloom.

I used to use those in tank testers a while back. If you look at the scale on the tester, you will see itís more precise than any other test. Because of that, itís best used for cycled tanks. Putting one of those in a cycling tank means you will never see it ďworkĒ because the concentrations are so much higher than the test can handle.


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Its a whitish cloudiness...driving me nuts. I think I'm going to go get a green killing machine (or 2 or 3...just bought another tank) See if that helps. I moostly got the coral to help with the PH, and cause it looks badass. I'm actually going to completely change the look of my tank, and I now have another BIG undertaking with my new tank (125 gallon, 72 x 22 x 19, overflow tank) But I want to get my smaller tank 100% before I bother too much with the new tank. I only got that because it was a total steal. My levels, except for PH look good. I just got a hardness test kit, and, assuming I'm doing the test right, my gh, and Kh are both at 6. ph at 6.2, ammonia 0, nitrate 0, Nitrite 60. Once my new substrate comes in I'll get my corall in, and get the green killing machine in, and hopefully that clears it up.
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Its a whitish cloudiness...driving me nuts. I think I'm going to go get a green killing machine (or 2 or 3...just bought another tank) See if that helps. I moostly got the coral to help with the PH, and cause it looks badass. I'm actually going to completely change the look of my tank, and I now have another BIG undertaking with my new tank (125 gallon, 72 x 22 x 19, overflow tank) But I want to get my smaller tank 100% before I bother too much with the new tank. I only got that because it was a total steal. My levels, except for PH look good. I just got a hardness test kit, and, assuming I'm doing the test right, my gh, and Kh are both at 6. ph at 6.2, ammonia 0, nitrate 0, Nitrite 60. Once my new substrate comes in I'll get my corall in, and get the green killing machine in, and hopefully that clears it up.
I'm not familiar with the "green killing machine". What does it do and how does it work? We've read enough of each other's posts that I know you are the "naturalist" type in this hobby and that I'm a retired Chemist that is not against using commercial products that list their ingredients. You have me really curious about this machine...a type of filter?

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I'm not familiar with the "green killing machine". What does it do and how does it work? We've read enough of each other's posts that I know you are the "naturalist" type in this hobby and that I'm a retired Chemist that is not against using commercial products that list their ingredients. You have me really curious about this machine...a type of filter?

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It's basically a small pump that pumps you water through a tube that has a UV light in it. Kills a lot of bad stuff. Supposedly works wonders for algae issues. The reviews on it are off the charts.

https://www.chewy.com/aa-aquarium-gr...SABEgKj3fD_BwE
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It's basically a small pump that pumps you water through a tube that has a UV light in it. Kills a lot of bad stuff. Supposedly works wonders for algae issues. The reviews on it are off the charts.

https://www.chewy.com/aa-aquarium-gr...SABEgKj3fD_BwE
Thanks for including the url. I looked it up and found a 3 watt available that might work for my 10 gallon breeding tank. I didn't know it was a UV sterilizer. But until I looked up the url you included, I never knew they were available in a 3 watt size for smaller tanks. Thanks.

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Whatís nice about the GKM is that itís an integrated pump and UV. With UV two things are important - wattage and contact time. Inline pumps (hook up to canister outflow tube) tend to be higher wattage due to the faster flow through the chamber. The GKM pump is low flow which increases contact time, and so the wattages are lower. 2 means to the same end. I use them in smaller tanks in place of a powerhead, to help with water flow in dead spots.


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