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post #1 of 16 Old 02-04-2020, 10:49 AM Thread Starter
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Beginner needs some help

Hello folks
I have a 29 gallon tank with live plants , some mollie, a few guppies a few Coryís. I am having issues with. My fish just dying. My ammonia seems ok.. ( I use a ammonia remover). PH is about 7.1. I have a canister filter, And a power filter on the side. I had a UGF but I disabled that because I think that was just causing more head aches. I had a power head but I also think that may have been causing too much flow.
Any suggestions would be appreciated. I am planning on putting in a 75 gallon cichlid tank this spring or summer.
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post #2 of 16 Old 02-04-2020, 11:33 AM
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try the methods in my signature or here if not in my signature: https://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/...-build-295530/


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maintain Fw and marine system with a strong emphasis on balanced, stabilized system that as much as possible are self substaning.

have maintained FW systems for up to 9 years with descendants from original fish and marine aquariums for up to 8 years.

With no water changes, untreated tap water, inexpensive lighting by first starting the tank with live plants (FW) or macro algae( marine)

see: https://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/a...-build-295530/
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post #3 of 16 Old 02-04-2020, 01:26 PM Thread Starter
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Ok are you saying start over? Iím confused.. no filtering?
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What is ammonia remover? The only way to remove ammonia is by doing water changes and some of it plants can remove after the process of turning it to NO3, NO4.
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post #5 of 16 Old 02-04-2020, 01:59 PM Thread Starter
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Imagitarium makes an Ammonia remover

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post #6 of 16 Old 02-04-2020, 02:47 PM
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Ok are you saying start over? Iím confused.. no filtering?
not necessarily. you already have plants.

the plants provide filtering.

As I remember you were using an anti ammonia chemical. Stop using that and let the plants consume the ammonia and carbon dioxide and return oxygen.

So basically look at the overall ideas and pick and chose to your specific system.

Once you get the plants controlling the system, the fish as well as the plants will thrive.

Meanwhile if you start a tank years from now you can try that method from the start.

Afterall it's just me and my .02

maintain Fw and marine system with a strong emphasis on balanced, stabilized system that as much as possible are self substaning.

have maintained FW systems for up to 9 years with descendants from original fish and marine aquariums for up to 8 years.

With no water changes, untreated tap water, inexpensive lighting by first starting the tank with live plants (FW) or macro algae( marine)

see: https://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/a...-build-295530/
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Imagitarium makes an Ammonia remover
I think that is stated for marketing purposes, but what it really does is binds and detoxifies poisonous ammonia so it doesn't pose a threat to fish. They're still present in your system and beneficial bacteria can still feed on it and you might need to remove it physically with water changes. Anyway, you shouldn't rely on those products to remove ammonia out of the system otherwise you'll always have a problem. Your system should be able to sustain itself if you have a good nitrogen cycle.

I recommend a video from youtube "HOW TO cycle an aquarium in 8 ways" by King of DIY.

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post #8 of 16 Old 02-04-2020, 03:08 PM
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What is ammonia remover? The only way to remove ammonia is by doing water changes and some of it plants can remove after the process of turning it to NO3, NO4.
As stated before it actually detoxifies ammonia and not removing it.

One example is Prime.

Plants actually prefer to use ammonia over nitrates when it is available. Just that in stabilized tanks the bacteria get it first then the plants reluctantly are forced to use nitrates.

One danger is the ammonia could be detoxed but ammonia tests will still test ammonia. So you can add more, test ammonia and repeat. All the while the initial dose detoxed the ammonia and later doses were unnecessary. Plus they are sulphur compounds which reduce oxygen as well as ammonia. So with extreme overdosing the fish can actually suffocate and show the same signs as ammonia.


But when plants consume the ammonia, nitrates, phosphates and carbon dioxide they return oxygen and fish food.

my .02

maintain Fw and marine system with a strong emphasis on balanced, stabilized system that as much as possible are self substaning.

have maintained FW systems for up to 9 years with descendants from original fish and marine aquariums for up to 8 years.

With no water changes, untreated tap water, inexpensive lighting by first starting the tank with live plants (FW) or macro algae( marine)

see: https://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/a...-build-295530/
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post #9 of 16 Old 02-04-2020, 04:09 PM Thread Starter
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When change water, how much do you change and how often? Do you add water to the tank THEN dechlorinate it or dechlorinate it in a separate container
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When change water, how much do you change and how often? Do you add water to the tank THEN dechlorinate it or dechlorinate it in a separate container
I would dechlorinate it in a separate container and only for that amount of water.

but than what do I know? LOL


Because, with my tanks, I just replace water that has evaporated and use untreated tap water from the cold faucet that has been ran for 20-30 seconds before collecting.


my .02

maintain Fw and marine system with a strong emphasis on balanced, stabilized system that as much as possible are self substaning.

have maintained FW systems for up to 9 years with descendants from original fish and marine aquariums for up to 8 years.

With no water changes, untreated tap water, inexpensive lighting by first starting the tank with live plants (FW) or macro algae( marine)

see: https://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/a...-build-295530/
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