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post #1 of 7 Old 03-12-2018, 02:47 PM Thread Starter
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My 1.5 year old LOVES fish so my parents gave me their tank when their last fish died. They had about 5 goldfish in it for last 8 years. I scrubbed everything and let it soak in hot water. I bought new filters and gravel, but all the decorations are theirs. My dad said not to use soap or anything because I needed a little alage to help it start up. The test strip picture is BEFORE anything was added. I took the picture to the pet store with me so I could ask someone what I need to buy. And this is what she had me add. Also, she had me add 1/4 cup of aquarium salt. I just added all this about an hour ago. The tank is 40g and I have a whisper 30-60 filter, a fluval heater set to 72į, and a aquaculture bubbler, but only one side is blowing for some reason. This is all used stuff from my parents that I've washed. My dad also gave me a timer for the light and said to only keep the light on for 6 hours per day. My mom says I HAVE to have a pleco for algae clean up. I'm not against this, but is that true? Is any of this information wrong? Give me ANY advice!

Last picture is a fish sticker because my daughter keeps looking for fish. She's suspicious though. When can we add fish? What kind of fish are best for a beginner?
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post #2 of 7 Old 03-15-2018, 12:13 AM
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The best time to add fish is after the tank has cycled. You don't so much need algae as you do beneficial bacteria growing in your filter. The test strip didn't seem to show ammonia levels, curiously enough (unless i'm reading it in haste) nor do the top two colors seem to match anything...
BUT - Some people seed the tank with ammonia and regularly test -- and some people put some hearty fish in and let things happen.

I'm hoping someone jumps in soon with better advice on cycling if your curious about that.
I'm about to have to leave work so only had a second but wanted to bump your thread - and also to say that i would NOT recommend a pleco! as they grow huge! I think you need a 100gallon+ for proper pleco care. (I've not had one - so hopefully memory is serving correctly)
There are plenty of other fish/animals that clean up algae. like snails. I've had great luck with nerite snails. and they are cute.
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FWIW I recommend the methods in the link in my signature. or here: https://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/a...-build-295530/


Just my planted tank methods


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maintain Fw and marine system with a strong emphasis on balanced, stabilized system that as much as possible are self substaning.

have maintained FW systems for up to 9 years with descendants from original fish and marine aquariums for up to 8 years.

With no water changes, untreated tap water, inexpensive lighting by first starting the tank with live plants (FW) or macro algae( marine)

see: https://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/a...-build-295530/
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My 1.5 year old LOVES fish so my parents gave me their tank when their last fish died. They had about 5 goldfish in it for last 8 years. I scrubbed everything and let it soak in hot water. I bought new filters and gravel, but all the decorations are theirs. My dad said not to use soap or anything because I needed a little alage to help it start up. The test strip picture is BEFORE anything was added. I took the picture to the pet store with me so I could ask someone what I need to buy. And this is what she had me add. Also, she had me add 1/4 cup of aquarium salt. I just added all this about an hour ago. The tank is 40g and I have a whisper 30-60 filter, a fluval heater set to 72į, and a aquaculture bubbler, but only one side is blowing for some reason. This is all used stuff from my parents that I've washed. My dad also gave me a timer for the light and said to only keep the light on for 6 hours per day. My mom says I HAVE to have a pleco for algae clean up. I'm not against this, but is that true? Is any of this information wrong? Give me ANY advice!

Last picture is a fish sticker because my daughter keeps looking for fish. She's suspicious though. When can we add fish? What kind of fish are best for a beginner?


Welcome to the hobby. Unfortunately, you did about the worst thing you could have done when you cleaned everything and started new with the filter. The beneficial bacteria colonies that live on every surface in the tank are what keep your fish alive. Good thing you didnít use soap - hopefully you wonít have to start all over with the cycle. Your dad was right about not wanting to completely sterilize the tank, but was wrong mentioning algae. Itís the BB not algae. Understanding the nitrogen cycle and how it works to keep your fish alive is the holy grail of fish keeping. Definitely do some research and ask questions about anything you would like clarification on.

Itís really important to recognize that people working the fish department, and even employees at dedicated fish stores, often dont quite know their stuff like you would expect. I would absolutely not use salt. While some types of aquariums may benefit, many will not and chances are your tank will fall in the latter category.

You donít need an algae eater until you have algae for it to eat.

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FWIW I recommend the methods in the link in my signature. or here: https://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/a...-build-295530/


Just my planted tank methods


and worth at most .02


Another shameful plug for yourself, ignoring the OP entirely. Looks like at most $0.02 worth of effort on your part.

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125 - cichlids (severums, bolivian rams, chocolate), rainbows ( turquoise, red), loaches (angelicus, zebra, kuhli and horseface), plecos (BN, RL and clown), denison barbs, tiretrack eel, pearl gouramis, betta
90 - Congo tetras, african knife, upside down cats, spotted ctenopoma, kribensis, delhezzi bichir
2.5 - betta
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If you want a pleco, be sure you know what your adding once cycled. (Id reccomend a bristlenose, they stay small). But they dont just feed on algae, and require supplemental food to stay healthy - and you still need to clean the tank.

As for fish, I would reccomend cycling beforehand! (Others have mentioned a bit about it, and there should be a guide on here in the begginer section that lays it all out! Now that aside, its best to walk into your local pet store and see what exactly interests you and your kid. List them down, and share them here on this board. We will all be able to help you determine a good stocking ratio and something thats good to look at, and hopefully easy to manage!

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Yup thatís what took me a few years to learn - go to the store, make a list of what you like and then LEAVE! Research the fish and make a plan without the pressure of being in the store. Then go back to make your purchase.

125 - BGK, chanchito cichlid, pictus cats, silver dollars, palmas bichir
125 - cichlids (severums, bolivian rams, chocolate), rainbows ( turquoise, red), loaches (angelicus, zebra, kuhli and horseface), plecos (BN, RL and clown), denison barbs, tiretrack eel, pearl gouramis, betta
90 - Congo tetras, african knife, upside down cats, spotted ctenopoma, kribensis, delhezzi bichir
2.5 - betta
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