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post #21 of 38 Old 03-02-2015, 10:39 AM Thread Starter
I suppose my Bumblebee Cichlid would hold his own with an Oscar. Actually, I think the Oscar would have trouble with him.

Bala Sharks are very cool when they get bigger, and they get huge. I need to rehome mine, they are currently in a 55gal, and are about 9" long. I might have to put them into my 150, or find someone who would like them and could house them better than I can currently. I feel like 4ft is not long enough for it to really enjoy life though.

On a side note, my chalceus, archerfish, and acara all love crickets. The bichirs do as well. Actually, everything in my tank goes berserk over some crickets dumped into the tank. My gf keeps crickets to feed her lizard, so some just happen to 'disappear' from time to time.

I do have a question. Is the Archerfish truly a brackish water fish? All over the internet I have gotten conflicting information. Some say it will shorten their life, and make them generally unhealthy to have them in strictly freshwater. Others have said that they have had theirs for over a decade with no salt in the water at all. Are they like Mollies, where they can adapt to both, but actually end up healthier in freshwater? Or are they like most puffers that need to transition so brackish in order to reach a good longevity?
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post #22 of 38 Old 03-05-2015, 09:07 PM
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Archerfish are definitely 100% a brackish fish. They will sustain in freshwater, some longer than others. But they're meant to have a decent amount of salt content in their water

PS, bumblebee's are African cichlids and Oscars are South American cichlids. U wouldn't wanna mix those.

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post #23 of 38 Old 03-05-2015, 09:13 PM
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Oh and also, there are many fish that are brackish due to the fact that when they are born the parents swim out of the ocean and up into the river systems to hatch their fry. So basically when they are born they are in fresh water rivers and then eventually migrate into the ocean. This is also cause for why u will see a BUNCH of fish that can go from freshwater as juvies to being fully marine by the time they reach adulthood.

Just a little additional piece of info.

And for the record, I've also kept "brackish" fish in freshwater tanks that have led fairly long and healthy lives. But as of these days, I don't do that anymore.

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I will also add, there is a HUGE misconception that Tiger Datnoids are one of the fish that are supposed to be in brackish water. This is FALSE, tiger datnoids are a freshwater fish. As well as pea puffers, who are also said to be brackish by a lot of folks on the internet.

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post #25 of 38 Old 03-08-2015, 10:25 PM Thread Starter
So would you suggest I either try to set up a brackish tank for him now? Or do you think he will be fine in my freshwater tank? I don't want him to be miserable, he is certainly very happy with his gut-loaded cricket diet. What is funny is he looks like a slightly disfigured black skirt tetra. Except, of course when he gets spooked, and he rockets to the other side of the tank and scares the **** out of the chalceus, who in turn bolts across the tank.

On a side note, the feeder guppies have discovered that I have only surface and bottom predators. So they are like a cloud in the middle of my tank. At least until the EB Acara makes a run at the group, or one of the Bichers darts through with its mouth open.
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In an ideal world it would be good for it to be in a brackish tank but if it's adapted and is doing well for you I'm sure it will be fine for at least a while. If you notice the appetite start to drop off and it's activity diminishing that's when it's time to start thinking about some salt content. I've had some brackish fish that have done well for long time in FW but eventually quit eating and died on me. That's a dead give away if the water is bugging them and they're on the way to needing a brackish tank.

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post #27 of 38 Old 03-09-2015, 11:25 PM Thread Starter
Well, I am going to begin my venture into brackish water...
I just picked up two violet gobies. I will begin re-arranging my fish, moving them between tanks, and then begin to transition the tank to brackish. It will probably be my 65gal, as that is the only one I have a chance of keeping them in for a while. I have checked out the brackish page on here, and there isn't much on them, so I will probably search out another forum to add to my favorites list.
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There's not really a whole lot on it anywhere. Most people who go brackish tend to go to full marine setups very shortly there after. It's pretty simple though and there is some stuff online to get u goin.

65g will do you good though on that archer, I've seen some trade ins around town at a few of the LFS and they had to be like 10 inches long and as round as datnoids. They get pretty big.

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post #29 of 38 Old 03-10-2015, 10:47 PM Thread Starter
Well, I was incorrect with my assumption that since they were fine in the freshwater at the lfs, they would be fine in mine. They promptly died. I woke up today to find them both in the bottom corner of my tank. I feel like they weren't very healthy to begin with, they were doing weird things in the tank at the store and my tank at home. Anyway, the plan is still on to change the 65 to brackish. I really don't want to spend the money for full marine. I don't want to pay for lights and protein skimmers and obnoxious amounts of salt and super expensive fish. I just don't take good enough care of my tanks at the moment to do that.
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post #30 of 38 Old 03-11-2015, 12:34 AM
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Aw man that sucks, sorry to hear that. Well good luck in the brackish venture, I'm sure you'll have fun with it.
Ps, got my ornate on video tonight in one of my updates if u care to see. He comes out when I start droppin the food in.

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