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post #11 of 26 Old 08-30-2012, 05:51 PM Thread Starter
"Week 4: Hopefully by now the Diatom Bloom has occured. If it has, I suggest adding a Clean up Crew (CUC)."

Is this the brown algae bloom you're talking about? what would get for a clean up crew?
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post #12 of 26 Old 08-30-2012, 06:29 PM
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I waited, too, after adding live rock. Sometimes even well cured rock can experience minor die off when rearranged stacked and piled. Conditions change for whatever may be encrusting it, and some things may die. But you mentioned something like a nearly 3-week waiting period before you added anything, which was prudent. I did, as you have done, a water test to confirm parameters, regardless of how safe things seemed to be. Another good strategy. Live rock does seem to create a very solid biological filter quickly, however, compared to the "ammonia and hope" method.

To be honest, although I was impatient to add fish, the period where live rock is developing and new organisms are daily appearing in the tank is fascinating. It made me want to keep a well lit tank full of nothing but live rock for a year or so, just to watch it.



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post #13 of 26 Old 08-30-2012, 06:35 PM
Coralline will not grow if the Phosphate levels are high. You should also test for this. But if your just going with a FOWLR, your only going to need to test for Calcium, Ammonia, Nitrates, Nitrites and PH. Magnesium, ALK, CA and Phosphates are if your going with a Reef tank, or tank with some corals. Corals hate Phosphates. And if yoiu have Phosphates in the water, you will also be getting hair algae, and gross lookin sponge growth.
But, onto the CUC here. For Diatoms, there is no reason to get Diatom specific CUC, as the Bloom will die off by itself.
But if you still wish to have your CUC knock em out
Astraea Turbo Snail
Banded Trochus Snail

Now for added CUC:
Bumble Bee Snail
Turbo Snail
I don't much care for reef hermits, if they don't have enough to forage on, they will go after your corals. But, thats a chance we all take if we want em. I don't have hermits in my tank.
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post #14 of 26 Old 08-30-2012, 06:52 PM
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I bought a bunch of super tongan nassarius snails and a bunch of Trochus snails for my 210. (Source: LIveaquaria). I thought the trochus would hang out on the live rock and the Nassarius would comb through the substrate.

After two weeks, it became clear that the super tongans were snuffing the Trochus one by one at night. Within a month, all the trochus were mere shells of their former selves, no pun intended, and I had nothing but Tongans and several dozen empty escargots.

Everybody on another forum told me my observations were crap, but I did find an account identical to my own on WetWebMedia where another person witnessed an all out Super Tongan attack on her Sea Hare.

Just because they're all part of a clean up crew doesn't mean they are compatible.

Buy the way, the tongan snails are still doing swell.



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post #15 of 26 Old 08-30-2012, 06:55 PM Thread Starter
Yeah I have some little hermits in there now. I haven't seen any growth yet so I would assume its just still too early. I also don't run my lights all day long because I was told this would promote algae overgrowth where I don't have corals yet. My tank is on the first floor of the house and while it doesn't get full sunlight there is a lot of ambient light in the room throughout the day. I've been lighting it like 3 hrs in the morning and like 5 hrs at night just so I can watch what's going on in there. There were a lot of times I found myself nearly cross eyed from starting in there . those first few weeks
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post #16 of 26 Old 08-30-2012, 08:13 PM
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A sump is actually not a filter, but an area that water drains down into to be recirculated into the display. The sump is a place to hide your equipment (skimmer, heater, uv, etc), increase water volume and oxygenate the water. This article I attached refers to filters such as canisters, bio-wheels and HOBs.

Calcium and alkalinity are controllers of water quality, not just consumables by coral. The chemical composition of seawater is not just salt and water. All the buffers associated with calcium and alkalinity, when in balance, promote good fish health and decrease the chance of disaster. Granted, when there are no coral in the tank, calcium and alk are consumed at lower rates, but they still need testing and replenishment.



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post #17 of 26 Old 08-30-2012, 08:35 PM Thread Starter
well there's certainly a lot to learn and digest. i appreciate the info and you letting me pick your brains!
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post #18 of 26 Old 08-30-2012, 08:44 PM
Here is a good explanation of a Sump/Fuge.
Melevsreef.com | Acrylic Sumps & Refugiums
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post #19 of 26 Old 09-02-2012, 10:01 PM Thread Starter
Sweet! Thanks for the info this site is a great source of info. I am picking up a 24 gallon aquarium to use as a sump tomorrow. Going to build one myself as they are really expensive new. I'll post pictures of it when it its finished. Not sure what I'm going to use as an overflow box so I may end up buying one.
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post #20 of 26 Old 09-02-2012, 10:45 PM
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I like the CPR CS90 for overflow boxes. They are self priming, so if there is a power outage and the siphon breaks, it will start iyself up again.



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