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Old 12-06-2006, 12:03 AM   #11
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Nix the snails too. Two different sources say they are a bad idea because they will eat the slime coating of the newt if he sits still long enough or doesn't bother trying to get them off.

Kinda makes me wonder how they survive so well in my local lakes!
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Old 12-06-2006, 12:16 AM   #12
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I've never had a problem with the snails. That will also depend on the species of snail you're dealing with. I wouldn't mix in apple snails or mystery snails, as they get too large, and can be predatory, but the small ram's horn snails don't seem to ever do any harm to the newts. I've been keeping those together for years without a problem. You'll just have to know for sure what species of snail you're dealing with.
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Old 12-06-2006, 01:22 AM   #13
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Well the article didn't say what kind so I guess I dooped there. Smaller ones are more likely to become food if they will eat them.

Alright battababy, I want to see a picture of yours if you have one. Maybe you can inspire another awesome vivarium.

I really think that seeing one is a good way to go. If you haven't taken a look at the links in the stickies Kathryn you might want to. Could be just the inspiration you need and could give you a really good idea of what you want to accomplish.
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Old 12-06-2006, 01:35 AM   #14
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I don't have one set up with newts right now. I had my hands full taking care of the store tanks when I was there. The only thing close to vivarium I have set up now is my 180, but instead of newts, I have an angelfish, a pleco, and a bunch of kuhli loaches in there. My husband started it with crypt plants and some awesome pieces of lace rock, and used sand for the loaches... part of the tank is bare bottom because the power head blows the sand away on one end, but it's a cool tank and easy to take care of. I can't offer pictures right now because my fish room is so crowded, it's too hard to get far enough away from the tank to get a full shot... the tank is too big and the space limitations are too cramped. The aisles in there are barely big enough for 1 adult to fit through. The room was originally set up for breeding, not public display, and until I can get moved and settled somewhere else, there's not much I can do about it. Sorry.
But, there are a lot of pictures I can get from the store tanks when I go there next. I have to make a trip in sometime in the next couple of days for my weekly brine, for the seahorses, so if I remember and have enough time, I'll snap some shots and bring them here. Most of those tanks I either set up myself, or had a hand in setting them up. At some point or other, I took care of them all.
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Old 12-06-2006, 03:52 AM   #15
Thanks everybody. Really appreciated. I bought a 6 gallon, but it's specifically designed for vivarium use, so the water space can be used most effectively (ie it's 2 ft long but only 8inches tall)
So will I buy pure ammonia from my lfs to test the rocks?
I've decided not to go with the sloping gravel, just as it takes up a lot of space.
So I won't have much space for a filter, but i'll try and find a small but effective one.
I'll post pics of the tank when it's up and running. :) :D
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Old 12-06-2006, 04:39 PM   #16
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The ammonia will make sure that the rocks aren't going to react with anything and make your pH swing really bad.

24" long tank and 8 inches tall, gonna be hard to get any type of filter in there at all but it depends on the height of the water. Maybe at about 6 inches you could get a small sponge filter or a really small internal to run but not much else. You could go with no gravel and make sure the sectioning off works good enough that you can just remove all the water weekly.

You could even get away with something a little cooler. If you are going to have about 4-6 inches of water, you could use an AC HOB or any HOB type filter and make a waterfall from the outlet that would be a little different. The waterfall would go across the width of the tank from the outlet to the front over a home made gravel fall. A simple piece of plexi with some aquarium safe silicone covered with rocks could work really well. Would also give your Newt another place to sit where it gets plenty of water but can be out of the water at the same time. Just have to fashion a little mesh to keep the newt out of the HOB. If the filter doesn't have good capacity, my Aquaview is ok but doesn't have descent filtration capacity, the waterfall could work as a wet/dry biological filter.

The waterfall would come down to about 1/2 inch above the water line or less. Really depends on what you like as far as looks.
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Old 12-07-2006, 03:29 AM   #17
Thanks. Sounds cool. :)

I am not very good with technology in tanks, things like filters etc, so I'll have a look for some simple small internal filters, but I don't know what I'll find.
Are you talking about the outlet of the filter making a waterfall down the rocks? Sounds good, but I don't want to use up too much space with the filter. It really depends on what I can find. :)
Thanks very much, I'll look around, as it sounds a good idea.
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Old 12-07-2006, 02:19 PM   #18
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Ok, this may help, the Aquaclear Hang on the Back filter would only take up about 1.5 inches of the water area if that. The majority of the filter will outside the tank and only a small tube comes down in the water. By far the best managament of space, IMHO. The waterfall won't take up any of the water area as it will be above the water and you were right about it carrying the water down form the outlet.

It would actually be very simple and you can get the filter online for less than $20.

This filter would work, I know it is reated for a 30 gallon but it will have a little more power to bring the water up and keep the tank a lot cleaner. The AC 20 may work but the AC 30 is my recommendation.
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Old 12-07-2006, 03:06 PM   #19
Thank you. I will look into that and see about buying one, but don't you need an undergravel filter for it to work? That's what the site says...?
Thank you agian, much appreciated. :D
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Old 12-07-2006, 11:17 PM   #20
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No under gravel filter with any AC filter. They replace undergravel filters although I have heard of people using them in conjunction. The AC 30 would be all you need, nothing else except for a couple replacement sponges, maybe some filter floss or some other media for the filter. 2 sponges will run it quite nicely. Big Als sells the sponges for really cheap.
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