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Old 05-15-2012, 11:04 AM   #11
 
Sorry, I'm a little confused now, won't the false bottom then become stagnant? Because of the egg crate, it will cause each little square to have water but that water wouldn't be moving so won't i risk stagnation and fungus? I was thinking that the gravel would be the reservoir of water. Will that not work? I cannot fit a pump the circulate water since the entire tank is so small. I am going to home depot tonight, Ill see if I can find a egg crate size that i can use. Is there an alternative to eggcrate for the false bottom?
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Old 05-15-2012, 12:36 PM   #12
 
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Sorry, I'm a little confused now, won't the false bottom then become stagnant? Because of the egg crate, it will cause each little square to have water but that water wouldn't be moving so won't i risk stagnation and fungus? I was thinking that the gravel would be the reservoir of water. Will that not work? I cannot fit a pump the circulate water since the entire tank is so small. I am going to home depot tonight, Ill see if I can find a egg crate size that i can use. Is there an alternative to eggcrate for the false bottom?
Fcourse each square will have stagnant water, that's why (somewhere) I said you need to put small PVC pipes under the eggcrate. You can find very small pumps in aquarium stores, half the size of a pack of smokes. The water does not need to be recirculated but the pump helps you get the water out when you want it out.
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Old 05-15-2012, 05:27 PM   #13
 
Hmm, well this poses a big problem then, the exo terra looks like it only has around 2-2.5 inches before the door. The egg crate is around 1/2 an inch already. The substrate, for the bottom plants, needs to be around 1 inch for minimal root growth. Then the false bottom should, i think, be raised 1/2 and inch? Then with the raised false bottom I am already at 2 inches and dirt layer on top shop only has 1/2 inch of thickness. Is that deep enough for the land plants? I am afraid I will not have enough land substrate for the terrestrial plants. Is there something here I should skip in my measurements?
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Old 05-15-2012, 05:30 PM   #14
 
Also, could you advise what kind of mesh you used for the top layer of the false bottom? Would something like this work? http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1...&storeId=10051
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Old 05-16-2012, 08:45 AM   #15
 
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The mesh in the link is what I used to(or very similar). It will work.
Yeah 1/2 inch is nuff for the false bottom to be raised. The plants will grow roots horizontally so it will be ok.
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Old 05-16-2012, 03:06 PM   #16
 
Sort of related, but is it possible to get some kind of hydroponics thing going with plants growing through the mesh and using the water at the bottom? Perhaps cutting holes in the mes to allow that could be good for the terrarium?
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Old 05-16-2012, 09:09 PM   #17
 
OK so this plan has a major problem as it turns out.

1. Egg Crate is only sold 2'x4'. I need like 7.5" x 7.5". I cannot buy 2x4 cuz its way too big

2. The amount of mesh required to build this terrarium is also 7.5" x 7.5". Mesh is sold 36" long and like 24" tall.

3. The perlite and peat sphagnum moss I need is sold in giant bags, even the smallest one its about 10x more than I need.


Is there a way around the false bottom problem? Perhaps an alternative way? I have really large gravel, could I use that and just make a 1 inch tall layer and then put the land substrate on top? The cracks between the gravel wont hold as much water as a false bottom but the large rocks should keep the coconut fibers, peat moss, and perlite away from the water?

For the perlite and peat moss problem, I am going to try and find a small garden store and hope they have it. I want to avoid the "special soil blends" online plant retailers have. They're so overpriced...
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Old 05-17-2012, 11:57 AM   #18
 
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Never sen anyone use the vivarium as a hydroponics sistem... I'd say no to it as the roots might rot.
Forget perlite and peat moss. Not needed. Plants will grow just fine in coco fiber. If you really want to give them some help you can use some fertilizers in the coco fiber. Something like those small sticks(they are 1/2 the size of a cigarette sold in any crap flower store). Just put 3-4 of them into the coco every 2 months or so.

Well if you dont want to buy the eggcrate and mesh you can always use the second method(I dont really like it but meh...) and use hydroballs:

BUT you still need some sort of mesh to put over them to keep the coco fibers from going down into the bottom. You could try and find window mosquito net, perhaps that is sold in smaller pieces...
Or try craft stores(or whatever the heck you call`em) those sell all kinds of stuff.
Using sand(big or small) wont solve the problem, you need a fine mesh to keep the coco from going down to the bottom...
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Old 05-17-2012, 01:54 PM   #19
 
Hydroballs apparently, at least from my sources, only come in 2.5lbs bags which is still too big. Also, apparently the closest craft store from me is like 2 towns over.

Anyway, a friend suggested the following: Acrylic sheet placed at a slope with rocks on one side to hold it up, and the other side laying directly on the bottom. with slits cut into it to allow water to pool underneath it. Will that work? The water would slide down the slope instead of pooling. I would put a layer of fine gravel for bog plants and it should be big enough to still allow water to pool? My only worry is that it wont allow for air exchange under the acrylic and I may have to deal with stagnant water?

Also, I ran into this: http://www.instructables.com/id/Pott...vorous-plants/ which says the coconut husk will kill my plants via salt eventually?

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Old 05-17-2012, 06:11 PM   #20
 
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Kill your plants via salt? The guy is insane or he used something else. Coco fibers have been used in vivariums for a very long time and I have yet to hear about a case of dead plants from it. I use it to grow plants, my tarantulas like on it, my dart frogs live on it, my blaberus craniifer colony lives on it.
At best he got a contaminated bag of coco fibers. My guess... he's insane.
Just use exo terra plantation soil, been using it for a long time and never had any problems with it regardless of what I had growing on it, be it plant or animal.
Now for the acrylic... I really dont know what to say... It might work and it might not. There could be more than one problem with that idea. The only 2 ways that actually work without problems are the ones I wrote about. Anything else would be trial and error.
What I think is that you should go for the eggcrate and net because once you have a vivarium I bet my car that you will want a second and 3'rd and so on. I know I have a room packed with them. You will want one that is bigger and you'll see photos of other vivs and want to do something similar and so on. So the leftover eggcrate and net will come in handy. If not you have mosquito net for the house and a nice piece of eggcrate that you can use in your garage(I use mine to hold screwdrivers). It can also be used in aquariums if you want to have heavy rocks on the bottom, it's a great way to spread the weight and keep the bottom safe. Seen it used in cichlid tanks.
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