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Old 01-27-2007, 01:54 AM   #1
 
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Technically this should count . . . lol

I just purchased a baby ball python - only a few weeks old, just had his first shed and feed. He's adorable! I have to get pics up of him. I have him, for now, in an 18 x 18 x 18 reptile tank which is plenty long enough for the hatchling to stretch and roam about. Later I'll move him to a 30+ gallon tank. He has coconut husk substrate, large water dish with reptile supplements added to the water which he will soak in etc, hiding log with a skeleton hand, a bendable wishbone shaped climbing branch, and under tank heater with humidity meter and thermometer. So far, so good. We're working on acclimating him better to being held, he's ok with it but easily frightened. He's very nocturnal; not a chance at getting him out when the lights are on nearby. Right now he eats fuzzies (5 day old mice). This is my first snake and I'm already in love with the little demon!

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Old 01-27-2007, 09:44 AM   #2
 
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i bet he is a cutie now but just wait til hes eating rabbits lol
cant wait to see pics :D
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Old 01-27-2007, 10:53 AM   #3
 
lol Actually he will never get that big. Ball Pythons max at 6 feet, but they average around 4. I know both of his parents and they are only 3-4 feet. The largest they will eat are small rats, though I will probably feed him two mice at that point as rats can do damage fighting back and I'm not thrilled with having to crack the rats skull for him lol. They're very picky eaters and won't touch anything until they're literally starving. They say to feed adults every other week but neither of his parents will eat but once a month. Anymore often and they make friends with it lol

In the wild they only eat jerboas so they have issues with food in captivity, as it takes them time to associate mice with food. It's still not a prefered source and some snakes will only eat gerbils.

I had pics of his first feed but they were deleted somehow - not happy. It was amazing to watch the clutch eat. He watched his prey with uncertainity, almost unsure what to do with it. The guy feeding him pulled the mouse up and dropped it again; something clicked for the snake and instinct took over. It was fascinating. The others each had their own response. One was terrified of the baby mouse and would ball up, hide his head. When he was forced to uncoil, he hauled snake ass out of the feeding container. lol

But I sat through his first feed and his parents to be sure I could handle it because they often will not eat frozen. It's actually quite clean. As long as I don't name the mouse and feed it crackers, all will be well lol He's locked up in a cage and counts on me to feed him. Not his bad nature made him the way he is. It's just part of the deal so it's cool. It's sad that some snakes actually starve because their owners wont give them live prey, because its "inhumane". Like starving the snake is any better. Stupid.

I think I'm going to work on pictures today. Wee.

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Old 01-27-2007, 11:00 AM   #4
 
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The largest they will eat are small rats, though I will probably feed him two mice at that point as rats can do damage fighting back//
its illegal here to feed live animals and fish to anything we used to have to kill the mice and rats (rabbits came frozen luckly) before feeding to snakes at college,
i got in trouble with lfs for feeding goldfish to my oscar! i have frozen now, not as entertaining but still as natural as i can get it
anyway im glad he wont get massive lol
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Old 01-27-2007, 11:03 AM   #5
 
where do you live?
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Old 01-27-2007, 11:09 AM   #6
 
Wow. That's kinda crazy. We have pet stores here (Arizona, USA) that sell live feeders - fish, mice, rats, crickets, worms, etc. It would be difficult to find feeder bunnies or hamsters - basically seems to be if it's overly cute, they won't sell it as food lol I have seen people ask pet stores if they have any mean rodents they can buy for their snake and the petstores usually oblige, which makes sense on the aspect that it's not going to be a very good pet. Either way, that would suck for ball pythons because they usually won't take frozen unless starving, and sometimes not then.

Do you know what is the reasoning behind that regulation? How do they regulate what is your purpose with an animal? For example, what keeps you from going to a different store and buying fish as feeder without mentioning what it's for? Just curious.

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Old 01-27-2007, 11:10 AM   #7
 
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Old 01-27-2007, 11:21 AM   #8
 
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i could go to another shop and just buy some, but i feel really bad doin it now, i cant even feed my catfish mealworms cos i think im goin to hell 4 it
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it was my fault i got told off i asked for small ones som my oscar wouldnt choke lol

regulations are to do with the R.S.P.C.A.
and its kinda if no1 knows your ok just dont tell the neighbours, every one snitches on everyone else here!
your dog cant have a flea without it being a cruelty case
us brits eh? makes me laugh :D
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Old 01-27-2007, 01:47 PM   #9
 
Ahh, it turns that way here sometimes. Eventually we will be up with that as well. There's already groups that try to boycott keeping snakes and stuff...sure from the wild I understand but this guy is captive bred, so were his parents, it would be inhumane, imo, to dump him outside.

I appreciate groups that are pro active in attempt to prevent animal abuse, but there is such a thing as going overboard.

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Old 12-08-2007, 11:45 PM   #10
 
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The largest they will eat are small rats, though I will probably feed him two mice at that point as rats can do damage fighting back//
its illegal here to feed live animals and fish to anything we used to have to kill the mice and rats (rabbits came frozen luckly) before feeding to snakes at college,
i got in trouble with lfs for feeding goldfish to my oscar! i have frozen now, not as entertaining but still as natural as i can get it
anyway im glad he wont get massive lol
That's strange. It's not illegal in Scotland.

We never did get to see old Bally. :(
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