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post #31 of 52 Old 07-17-2012, 08:01 PM Thread Starter
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post #32 of 52 Old 07-17-2012, 08:09 PM Thread Starter
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temp is 78 now. festivum ate and cherry barb tried to eat the nls. ive got to go and get the smaller formula soon. iv feed soooo much today to see if i could get them to eat. im glad tomorrow is water change day. (all of it was eatin but im sure they are producing a lot of waste)
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post #33 of 52 Old 07-17-2012, 08:14 PM
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Have you noticed any stringy white poop?

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post #35 of 52 Old 07-17-2012, 08:54 PM
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Are any others displaying beginning symptoms? IME, cichlids that go off their feed may have internal parasites, but this was a more common experience for me among Africans than South or Central Americans. I relied on huge water changes and occasional use of Clout, which is an anti-parasitic. Do not use this indiscriminately on the entire tank. I would be especially cautious about your catfish. Isolate affected fish and treat in quarantine. Do large water changes after use. Many of my fish regained their appetites following treatment and never looked back.

I know you are in transition with these fish, but for me, the risks of such interim housing outweigh the rewards. It sounds like you have an enviable collection (I am drooling over your swordtails) and I would be anxious to split these up into their individual tanks as quickly as possible.

I agree that euthanizing fish is sometimes the more humane tack to take, especially if the fish is refusing food and having trouble maintaining equilibrium. I think it's especially important to isolate affected fish, because the harrassment and competition only hastens the end and intensifies the suffering. . .

I have used garlic extract on occasion, but also read enough opinion pieces to make me think it's nothing more than "snake oil." My opinion is it can't hurt. Good luck. Sounds like you have lots of projects coming up.



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post #36 of 52 Old 07-17-2012, 09:03 PM
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Not all forms of garlic are equally effective. The oil/juice isn't good for more than an appetite stimulant, for example.

The health benefits of garlic are well documented, and many believe that what is good for the goose is good for the gander. Hardly snake oil, though there are no doubt some products that look to capitalize on it without providing much benefit, as there are with everything.

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Are any others displaying beginning symptoms? IME, cichlids that go off their feed may have internal parasites, but this was a more common experience for me among Africans than South or Central Americans. I relied on huge water changes and occasional use of Clout, which is an anti-parasitic. Do not use this indiscriminately on the entire tank. I would be especially cautious about your catfish. Isolate affected fish and treat in quarantine. Do large water changes after use. Many of my fish regained their appetites following treatment and never looked back.

I know you are in transition with these fish, but for me, the risks of such interim housing outweigh the rewards. It sounds like you have an enviable collection (I am drooling over your swordtails) and I would be anxious to split these up into their individual tanks as quickly as possible.

I agree that euthanizing fish is sometimes the more humane tack to take, especially if the fish is refusing food and having trouble maintaining equilibrium. I think it's especially important to isolate affected fish, because the harrassment and competition only hastens the end and intensifies the suffering. . .

I have used garlic extract on occasion, but also read enough opinion pieces to make me think it's nothing more than "snake oil." My opinion is it can't hurt. Good luck. Sounds like you have lots of projects coming up.
i was supposed to move my swords and cherry barbs to the 30 breeder by the time my syndolntis and angels got here but i guess instead ill be quarentining the new fish until i know the fish in the main tank are better. i have ordered a new heater and the thera + small fish formula. the end stock for my 55 will be
5-6 angels
1-2-rams
3-syno petricola
i was also supposed to move the festivum to my 120 in a week along with my blue gourami in quarentine but unless all symptoms are gone nobodys moving out. the good news is that all fish are now eating. or atleast trying to. the cherry barb was pecking at the pellets but theyre too big for its mouth. tomorrow i will do a huge 75% water change with prime. i wish my python would connect to this sink. ive been watching my perams closely to make sure my params never get past 0,0,20 and so far so good.
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post #38 of 52 Old 07-17-2012, 09:10 PM Thread Starter
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oh and no its just the cherry barb really. the festivum i guess was just scared bc it was at the front of the tank earlier so i dropped in a little food and it ate. its really just the cherry barbs appearance i think. i will try and get a picture of it. the ram that died i think was bc of the lower temp and the angel is from a bad aquabidder that i shouldnt have bought from joegargas. after purchasing i learned a lot of his angels are diseased.
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post #39 of 52 Old 07-17-2012, 09:12 PM
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hope your fish all get better, one of my Angels stopped eating for a while, then suddenly started again - still don't know what the problem was!!!
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post #40 of 52 Old 07-17-2012, 09:28 PM
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75 is very low for german rams - should be in the low to mid 80's. I think the water temp could have contributed to it's death, but I don't think it caused it. .

You can crush up the pellets a little so the smaller fish can eat it.

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