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post #1 of 15 Old 07-21-2009, 10:42 PM Thread Starter
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What disease has my sunset gourami?

Hi all! I have a problem with my sunset gourami. I bought him1 month 1.5 months ago and then he has not shown any sign of illness. After three or four days it appear on his skin and fins brownish-blackish patches. Since then (with 1 month ago) he doesnt shown any changes even hes slightly worse. However, hes eating and swimming normally but he is a little more agitated than the other fish. I attached a picture with my fish and I hope someone to know what he has! Sorry for my English but as you noticed Im not a native English speaker! Thanks!

PS: My aquarium: -60 litters
-heater, white light bulb, water filter
-fishes: 1 pearl gourami, 2 sunset gourami and a betta male
-5 plants
-water temperature around 82 Fahrenheit(28 Celsius)
-water parameters: 0 ammonia, 0 nitrites, 0 nitrates, PH:7.8
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post #2 of 15 Old 07-22-2009, 12:20 PM Thread Starter
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I have more pictures...i hope that are more accurate!The fish looks brighter because of the flash-light!!!
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post #3 of 15 Old 07-22-2009, 01:06 PM
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Cant say for sure and its hard to tell from your pics, but it looks and sounds like myxobacteriosis..........This is a bacterial infection that is caused from exposure to ammonia and nitrites in the water and possibly from overcrowding in such a small tank..........From what i read its easy to cure with the correct medication.....The only specific medication i found for it is......Phenocide made by Aquatronics........I have never dealt with this in my tanks, so its hard to comment on the severity of the infection........

IMO, your tank is too small for the fish you are trying to keep in it..........Keeping multiple gouramis in a tank that size is asking for trouble once they reach maturity..........Plus, usually bettas dont fair well with other tankmates......Just something to consider...........Good Luck!
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post #4 of 15 Old 07-23-2009, 11:41 AM
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Just a thought....but are you sure its not just coloring that hes taking on with maturity? My female Honey(Sunset)has a darker patch of color in that area and has been like that since I bought her, but I also bought her when she was fully grown. Its not as brown, but it is darker, and she is also a bit lighter in color then your guy. I think if hes acting normally and beginning to show signs of aggression, hes just maturing.

The readings are a bit worrisome for your parameters though, a mature tank should have some nitrAte reading(5-10). How long has this tank been established? What kind of test kit are you using?
I'd turn the heater down as well, 82 is quite a bit too high IMO. 78-79 should do just fine, this is what I keep mine at and when the temperature was higher she seemed uncomfortable.

I completely agree on the stoking. 60 liters is around 15 US gallons I think? This is far to small for a Pearl, you'll need to return it or have a much larger tank for it in the near future. I highly advise taking out the betta as well, IME they will attack any Gourami as viciously as they would attack another male and the Gourami will not always fight back as viciously.
With that said, a 15 would be fine for the pair of Honeys(assuming you have a male and female)BUT IME only two Gourami of any species will fight and the male may harass the female to death. If you remove the Pearl and Betta and get your parameters straitened away, I'd add a second female Honey to break up aggression.
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post #5 of 15 Old 07-29-2009, 12:09 AM Thread Starter
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My sunset gourami it's darken than ever...so, now he have the caudal fin almost black...and his other fins are also black....and of course that on the skin the patches are darker...so...someone have an ideea what it is??? In the same time he's eating and swimming like a shark...soooo...i'm so confused!


PS: to reply to the previous post...i have a 20 gallon aquarium and i have 0 nitrates because i have many plants and few fishes in it!
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post #6 of 15 Old 07-29-2009, 09:39 AM
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Mind posting a recent picture maybe? I'd honestly pin it on maturity if he, otherwise, appears healthy.....though a pic would be good.
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post #7 of 15 Old 07-29-2009, 11:02 AM Thread Starter
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I will give you soon some new pictures...he have the same look but more darkner !
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post #8 of 15 Old 07-29-2009, 11:11 AM
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Alright, yeah, pictures are good.....whenever you can
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post #9 of 15 Old 07-29-2009, 11:41 AM
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did you check out myxobacteriosis?.............Still sounds like thats what it is.............easily curable, with the correct medication........
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post #10 of 15 Old 07-29-2009, 11:46 AM Thread Starter
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Here are some new pictures( are not so great but you can see where is the problem)!
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